HOA and boat parking (Mesa: lawyer, live, legal)

[Captain Bill]

Reedus, you're doing all the right things, and it will turn out ok for you. I'm on the board of our HOA and if this were in our community, your boat, as it is in the photo, would be a non-issue. I'm confident that will be the position of the property manager when you're able to check in with him after his return.

It may be all over as soon as he returns. However, I would suggest that you attend a few board meetings so as to learn what your neighbor board members are doing for your community. Get to know them and the projects they're working on. You may even want to become involved in some of the projects.

[Burning Madolf]

Originally Posted by AZBradley

My thoughts exactly.

[RCR]

Originally Posted by Desertspiritsteve

I'll never understand why people buy a place with a HOA when they have no intention of complying. My sister bought in N. Scottsdale in the mid 80's. Her HOA didn't permit playground equipment showing over the wall or having metal storage sheds in the yard. They made the stucco wall higher next to the house and put a metal storage shed there. No one could ever see it and they could continue to be closet pack rats. It worked until there was a summer storm with high winds. The winds picked the shed up and slammed it down in the middle of the front yard across the street. Busted. It tore up the neighbor's expensive landscaping. Couldn't you just rent a boat when you need one or rent covered storage for it somewhere else? All those black tire marks on the driveway are a give-away to something going on behind the gate. The tire marks go off of your drive way and through the yard next door. I just looked at the photo again and see a river rock and a red brick on the stucco wall at the corner of the garage. Are those milk crates stacked up and a wide open garage door? Don't blame the next-door neighbor for turning you in...it could be the people across the street or drivers by who don't like the looks of your place. Those are really nice looking gates. You could turn in the next door neighbor for the bad wood in their gate and make them replace the wood with nice wood like your gates have. I wish the photo had been taken a little to the right so we could see what's going on in that wide open garage. If this goes to court you won't want Judge Judy looking at that picture.

This is exactly the kind of response that gets HOAs referred to as "Nazis". The OP has done more than enough to comply. If there is something going on behind the gate that is nobody's business nor is what is going on in that wide open garage. I think if Judge Judy was to look at the photo she would laugh the complainer out of court.

[jimj]

What I find funny is homes that are built and advertised with an" RV" gate but you cannot put an "RV" behind them without being in violation of a rule unless said "RV" height can change from 10-12 feet in height to 6 feet.
Not many "RV's" I know of can do that. Maybe it's not a "boat" gate?

[Jkgourmet]

Originally Posted by jimj

What I find funny is homes that are built and advertised with an" RV" gate but you cannot put an "RV" behind them without being in violation of a rule unless said "RV" height can change from 10-12 feet in height to 6 feet.
Not many "RV's" I know of can do that. Maybe it's not a "boat" gate?

The "RV gate" is installed to allow the big equipment into the backyard if you want to build a pool. The purpose of these gates is NOT to allow RV's in the backyard in an HOA community. But I agree that the name "RV gate" is misleading.

[jimj]

Originally Posted by Jkgourmet

The "RV gate" is installed to allow the big equipment into the backyard if you want to build a pool. The purpose of these gates is NOT to allow RV's in the backyard in an HOA community. But I agree that the name "RV gate" is misleading.

I'm sorry, that doesn't make sense.

If that's the case then how come I don't have one and I'm on the largest lot on the street but one or two neighbors do have one, one of them in fact has a concrete pad inside the RV gate?

[Sandduner]

Originally Posted by Desertspiritsteve

I'll never understand why people buy a place with a HOA when they have no intention of complying. My sister bought in N. Scottsdale in the mid 80's. Her HOA didn't permit playground equipment showing over the wall or having metal storage sheds in the yard. They made the stucco wall higher next to the house and put a metal storage shed there. No one could ever see it and they could continue to be closet pack rats. It worked until there was a summer storm with high winds. The winds picked the shed up and slammed it down in the middle of the front yard across the street. Busted. It tore up the neighbor's expensive landscaping. Couldn't you just rent a boat when you need one or rent covered storage for it somewhere else? All those black tire marks on the driveway are a give-away to something going on behind the gate. The tire marks go off of your drive way and through the yard next door. I just looked at the photo again and see a river rock and a red brick on the stucco wall at the corner of the garage. Are those milk crates stacked up and a wide open garage door? Don't blame the next-door neighbor for turning you in...it could be the people across the street or drivers by who don't like the looks of your place. Those are really nice looking gates. You could turn in the next door neighbor for the bad wood in their gate and make them replace the wood with nice wood like your gates have. I wish the photo had been taken a little to the right so we could see what's going on in that wide open garage. If this goes to court you won't want Judge Judy looking at that picture.

Why on earth should he have to rent a boat? Do people really care about tire marks on driveways? Wide open garage door?? Heaven forbid...why should anyone care about what's in HIS garage??
"Turning in your neighbor" ...why not just talk to your neighbor if you have a problem , instead of turning him in?
Just wondering.....
Threads like this make me glad I live where I do, and thankful of my neighbors.

[AZ bound]

Originally Posted by Jkgourmet

The "RV gate" is installed to allow the big equipment into the backyard if you want to build a pool. The purpose of these gates is NOT to allow RV's in the backyard in an HOA community. But I agree that the name "RV gate" is misleading.

I'd have to disagree with that one.
"rv gates" are for rv's...."Double gates" are for building pools.
I went through this hassle with my builder, cause I was ticked off that I couldn't get a small delivery truck through my "double gates" in my back yard to deliver rock.
I can't even fit my full size chevy through them.
It's going to be a bobcat for the pool

[pbenjamin]

I am usually in the "abide by the rules that you signed up for" camp but this seems a bit ridiculous.

[Zippyman]

Originally Posted by pbenjamin

I am usually in the "abide by the rules that you signed up for" camp but this seems a bit ridiculous.

When the average hoa has 20+ pages of rules & cc&r's, it's difficult to comply with all of the ones that are even clearly spelled out, much less the ones that are open to interpretation..

My cc&r's require that "the garage door only be opened long enough for a vehicle to enter or exit the garage".. not sure how you enforce a rule like that *without* getting called a "nazi".. the rule makes sense, I don't want to have a view of a messy garage, but there is no nice way to enforce that rule.