Is Erie Ghetto? (Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Franklin: low income, apartments, rent)

[SteelCityRising]

Originally Posted by GuardianSensor

You all need to also recognize that the CENSUS WAS RIGGED IN ERIE!!!!!!

the 2000 census was horribly under counted.

Instead of the Official 103,717 they have for us...it's more like 140,000.

Once Erie and Millcreek merge only 9 percent of the city will be impoverished, nice huh?!

I highly doubt that Erie's population SKYROCKETED from 1990 to 2000 all the way up to 140,000, making it much larger than Allentown and nearly half the size of Pittsburgh. Methinks you are including the city of Erie with Millcreek Township to arrive at that figure. For what it's worth I'd rather die than live in Millcreek Township---such lack of history and charm in the neighborhoods.

[TechieTransplant]

Originally Posted by ScranBarre

For what it's worth I'd rather die than live in Millcreek Township---such lack of history and charm in the neighborhoods.

What a thoughtless thing to say.

Just because you didn't find anyone or anything interesting zooming in on Google Earth, doesn't mean it's not a great area. Millcreek is home to Asbury Woods nature center, Presque Isle State Park, Waldameer Amusement park and so on.

[Ohiogirl81]

Originally Posted by GuardianSensor

Once Erie and Millcreek merge only 9 percent of the city will be impoverished, nice huh?!

That's been talked about for years. And it will never happen.

Originally Posted by ScranBarre

For what it's worth I'd rather die than live in Millcreek Township---such lack of history and charm in the neighborhoods.

Oh, come on now ... That's like me saying Scranton is a dump. Millcreek wouldn't be my first choice if I were moving back to Erie, but it is huge, wraps around the city, and has something for everyone. My favorite part of the township is up around Belle Valley and Wintergreen Gorge, where it's still somewhat rural. The view of the lake from up there is jaw dropping.

[vectorfrankel]

I can't believe this topic had more posts after the 20th person who said "No, it's not"

[pj3000]

Originally Posted by ScranBarre

For what it's worth I'd rather die than live in Millcreek Township---such lack of history and charm in the neighborhoods.

A good bit if Millcreek is indeed composed of typical suburban generic sprawl development, but it also contains some very nice neighborhoods composed of turn-of-the-century and pre-1950s housing with plenty of history and charm. Chestnut Hill, Shorehaven, Lakewood are a few that come to mind.

[GuardianSensor]

Originally Posted by ScranBarre

I highly doubt that Erie's population SKYROCKETED from 1990 to 2000 all the way up to 140,000, making it much larger than Allentown and nearly half the size of Pittsburgh. Methinks you are including the city of Erie with Millcreek Township to arrive at that figure. For what it's worth I'd rather die than live in Millcreek Township---such lack of history and charm in the neighborhoods.

No, the population did not "skyrocket" it's just been under counted for years!
yes, some of Millcreek definitely has no class or history, yet I would have to speak up for my customers for whom I build houses for...there's nothing tasteless or cookie cutter about their houses.

I've built houses for 3 Erie doctors who would never set foot in the typical urban sprawl area's some of Millcreek is made of.

I've built houses for self made millionaire's and heiress' in Erie who's houses have more character than most houses ever will.

The only house's I would pit against them for charm and class appeal, are many of the houses on W. 10th, W. 6th, Greengarden BLVD 25th street up to W. Grandview (actually a couple blocks before that) and upper State St from 35th St and up along with the whole Glenwood area.


So, back to the population issue...

I believe there's been some sort of artificial shrinking of Erie by politicians...for what reason I can't determine (I have some ideas), but it's definitely there.

Erie and Millcreek will eventually merge, however it won't be soon enough.

Yes, Erie is roughly half the size of Pittsburgh proper, however Pittsburgh METRO is VERY large, with nearly 3 million people (Yes, nearly 3 million....I know, I know they have it closer to 2.5 million, but inside sources say there missing/ignoring a couple metro counties in that number.)

Anyway, Happy New year everyone!

[badguykc]

Erie a ghetto? Absolutely not.

Yes, some Erie neighborhoods have a few run-down houses and Mr. Dope Man out there peddling his wares, but that's all that is...surface appearance. As far as violent crime goes, it happens, but it's few and far between.

I don't care what anyone says. Crime is not a problem in Erie, compared to smaller cities in the state like Harrisburg, York, and Reading. I'd even throw Altoona in there. Allentown is almost a mirror image to Erie in terms of population, and if you put the two side-by-side...it'd be like going to and from a whole different world.

Some people may say I'm wrong, but I'm sure plenty of people will also agree with me. There are MUCH MUCH more ghetto places in Pennsylvania than Erie.

[badguykc]

Originally Posted by MarinoG711

Im sure this will get a reaction like.... ha ha.. that aint nothing dawg... you need to see my old hood in Beaver Falls or New Castle(small towns outside of Pitt, that people I work with claim is worse than compton)...
whatever this is a stupid thing to argue... Erie is just like pitt, buffalo, philly, but on a smaller scale... Just like Beaver Falls is like Erie but on a smaller scale...

I have a friend who lives in New Castle and she claims it's worse than living in parts of Youngstown...LOL

[dugdogmaster]

Originally Posted by badguykc

I have a friend who lives in New Castle and she claims it's worse than living in parts of Youngstown...LOL

Lmao. Nothing in this area is as bad as Y-town, not even Farrell.

[GuardianSensor]

Originally Posted by ScranBarre

I highly doubt that Erie's population SKYROCKETED from 1990 to 2000 all the way up to 140,000, making it much larger than Allentown and nearly half the size of Pittsburgh. Methinks you are including the city of Erie with Millcreek Township to arrive at that figure. For what it's worth I'd rather die than live in Millcreek Township---such lack of history and charm in the neighborhoods.

I'd like to voice something about this again...Erie was always larger than Allentown, in fact the 2000 census was the first time Allentown EVER passed us up.

In fact this is the smallest Erie's been in almost 100 years.

The main reason being Millcreek, up till the early 80's Millcreek was still farm land and only about 20,000 people, by the 2000 census there were 53,000 people.

Millcreek was supposed to be annexed into the City just like the last 5 Boroughs that were in the early 1900's, but instead....STATE restrictions prohibited the City from assimilating in the new neighborhoods to keep it's tax base, if this would have been done, Erie would never have had any financial issues throughout the late 90's to today.

But we still can change things around.