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Old 12-10-2012, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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No pman, I think you seem to be an educated native. I will also remind you that im familiar with most of PA take the NE part. I have driven across the state many times, as well as from straight up North by way of 79 or 81. I have family and friends all over PA. I think that a cheap house in Cumberland is still an expensive one in say nemicolon,PA. I'm not sure that Its rational to conclude that because there are a few successful areas economically that the whole state is either, but some elude to that as well. My coworker just showed me stats that Philly ranks 9th in the poorest city in the US with 25% below the poverty level. No Md city listed on the whole list. I think people should live wherever they want. I'm glad your happy, I know I am.
And Chester, Montgomery, and Bucks Counties of the Philly metro are amongst the 100 wealthiest counties in the country so yeah.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:09 PM
 
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From the Wall St journal > Pct. below poverty line: 10.1% (2nd lowest)

Maryland, which has had the highest median income of all states since 2006, was the only state in the country to have a median income above $70,000 in 2011. The state’s 10.1% was well below the national rate of 15.9%. Furthermore, a sizable portion of the population is earning well above the median income. Maryland is one of three states, along with New Jersey and Connecticut, where more than 10% of families earned more than $200,000 in 2011. Across the U.S., only 5.6% of families made more than $200,000 in 2011.

Michael B. Sauter, Samuel Weigley, Brian Zajac and Alexander E. M. Hess

Also Read: America’s Poorest States

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No mention of PA? Cumberland is not recessed? Its just rural. Inner City Baltimore? Fells Point has million dollar Row homes. Every city has poor, PA's just have more..The PA logic that some poster's eluded to is rearing Its head.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:36 PM
 
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County State Median Household Income [1]

Population [2]

1 Loudoun County Virginia $119,134 325,405

2 Fairfax County Virginia $105,797 1,100,692

3 Arlington County Virginia $100,735 216,004

4 Hunterdon County New Jersey $99,099 128,038

5 Howard County Maryland $98,953 293,142

6 Somerset County New Jersey $96,360 324,893

7 Prince William County

Virginia $95,146 419,096

8 Fauquier County Virginia $93,762 66,320

9 Douglas County Colorado $93,573 292,167

10 Montgomery County Maryland $92,909 989,794

11 Charles County Maryland $91,733 149,130

12 Nassau County New York $91,414 1,344,436

13 Stafford County Virginia $91,348 132,133

14 Morris County New Jersey $91,332 494,976

15 Putnam County New York $90,735 99,933

16 Calvert County Maryland $89,393 89,256

17 Williamson County Tennessee $86,962 188,560

18 Delaware County Ohio $85,365 178,341

19 Santa Clara County California $84,895 1,809,378

20 York County Virginia $84,167 66,134 21 Anne Arundel Maryland $84,138 544,403

22 Carroll County Maryland $84,117 167,288

23 Suffolk County New York $84,106 1,498,816

24 Sussex County New Jersey $83,839 148,517

25 Carver County Minnesota $83,348 92,638

26 Alexandria City Virginia $82,748 144,301

27 Fort Bend County Texas $82,271 606,953

28 Collin County Texas $82,237 812,226

29 Rockland County New York $82,217 315,158

30 Forsyth County Georgia $82,209 181,840

31 Rockwall County Texas $82,061 81,290

32 Norfolk County Massachusetts $81,889 675,436

33 San Mateo County California $81,657 727,209

33 St. Mary's County Maryland $81,657 107,484

35 Hamilton County Indiana $80,999 282,810

36 Scott County Minnesota $80,864 132,556 37 Kendall County Illinois $80,655 116,631

38 Monmouth County New Jersey $79,334 631,020

39 Bergen County New Jersey $79,272 911,004

40 Chester County Pennsylvania $79,160 503,897

41 Tolland County Connecticut $78,210 152,507

42 Harford County Maryland $78,123 246,489

43 Frederick County Maryland $77,791 236,745

44 Fairfield County Connecticut $77,289 925,899

45 Middlesex County Connecticut $77,193 166,043

46 Marin County California $77,168 255,031

47 Westchester County New York $77,006 955,899

First PA county comes in 40th. Behind 7 MD Counties. You can talk out your butt to some other person.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:40 AM
 
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I dont see why the Govt being around here is a bad thing, nor do i feel responsible for putting it there. I choose to benefit by it instead of rambling about it. Maybe someone didn't read my first post. I was born and raised in SW PA. I've been in a coal mine, have you? The cause is Also irrelevent, you cant change it. You can chose to live there or move elsewhere as I did. I dont think MD is the best place in the country to live, nor do i think PA to be the worst. I just think that MD is a small state with alot of wealthy people and PA is a huge state with a few wealthy people. I think that in itself makes it to be successful, unless you judge success by the amount of land you own, not the value of your house.

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Old 12-11-2012, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Planet Kolob
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Did you ever consider that you are comparing apples to oranges? I mean Maryland is tiny compared to Pennsylvania. Yes, Baltimore has Fells Point. You are correct. Philly has Chestnut Hill. Yippie. Your comparisons are so absurd. You are trying so hard to make some non existent point that you dug yourself into. Compare the Baltimore metro to Philly if you want to do more of a proper comparison.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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He has PA-itis. When somebody from a "bad" part of PA moves to a "good" part of another state and concludes that therefore the entire new state is better than the entirety of PA. There is no cure.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Yes, my post was long, it didn't look long on my pc, it does on my phone. I do find it odd that the lengthy post above it went unanswered since May, while mine being a paragraph longer drew immediate attention. Why was that I wonder? Because it was negative. I may point out that I took great care to repeat that I was not talking about the whole state. I even said I liked Pitt and Philly. I find that many are weak in reading comprehension.I also was not the one who originated the question. I was just lending my opinion. I am a hard working guy, not a Govt worker. I was quoting what a friend said in the mid 80's.I totally agree with that assessment. I do however don't put much faith in statistics of crime and other thing, since one can usually find any statistic to back up ones opinion. There is crime in rural areas as well as urban.Western ,MD has the tourism of Deep Creek, homes and property in Deep Creek are pricey, far from recessed. My point was I would rather live in a good economy and drive to my recreation than live there and drive to the good economy. The large majority of the pro Pa posts are about the scenery.My point was its true, but how far up on your list is that.
Your original post: Last edited by toobusytoday; 12-09-2012 at 08:48 PM.. Reason: edited typo's and added paragraphs.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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No pman, I think you seem to be an educated native. I will also remind you that im familiar with most of PA take the NE part. I have driven across the state many times, as well as from straight up North by way of 79 or 81. I have family and friends all over PA. I think that a cheap house in Cumberland is still an expensive one in say nemicolon,PA. I'm not sure that Its rational to conclude that because there are a few successful areas economically that the whole state is either, but some elude to that as well. My coworker just showed me stats that Philly ranks 9th in the poorest city in the US with 25% below the poverty level. No Md city listed on the whole list. I think people should live wherever they want. I'm glad your happy, I know I am.
"View of an abandoned neighborhood in Baltimore, Maryland.
Households in Baltimore have a relatively low median income of about $39,000, ranking the city No. 22. The setting for the gritty, fictional television series “The Wire,” Baltimore has a median value for an owner-occupied home of $154,000, compared with $174,000 for the U.S. About one-quarter of the city’s population is in poverty. Educational services, and health care and social assistance is by far the largest industry, with major employers such as Johns Hopkins University."

The richest and poorest U.S. cities by income - Slide Show - MarketWatch
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Philly
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No pman, I think you seem to be an educated native. I will also remind you that im familiar with most of PA take the NE part. I have driven across the state many times, as well as from straight up North by way of 79 or 81. I have family and friends all over PA. I think that a cheap house in Cumberland is still an expensive one in say nemicolon,PA. I'm not sure that Its rational to conclude that because there are a few successful areas economically that the whole state is either, but some elude to that as well. My coworker just showed me stats that Philly ranks 9th in the poorest city in the US with 25% below the poverty level. No Md city listed on the whole list. I think people should live wherever they want. I'm glad your happy, I know I am.
why would anyone compare cumberland with nemacolon resort? it's more comparable to chambersburg. your coworker was looking only at Philadelphia the city, not Philadelphia the region. your last point is, of course, completely wrong.
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The poverty rate in Baltimore held steady last year with about 1 in 4 counted as impoverished by the U.S. Census Bureau
Baltimore's poverty rate unchanged at 1 in 4 residents - Baltimore Sun
1 in 4=25%

just as in baltimore, only more so, there are plenty of places to live that aren't in abject poverty.
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:15 PM
 
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The thread isnt about which State is bigger, or the differences of MD and PA. Simply google the question there are literally dozens of forums on this subject. Why do you think that is, just read the entire thread. Just all get together and concentrate on one? Baltimore is a good place to live, the wire was filmed here,Pittsburgh was used as Gothem City in the latest Batman movie. Im not sure of your grasp of reality is helping you prove your point . I think some of the newer posters need to read my original post. I am certainly not trashing the whole state, and never was. I said there were parts I like. But in true PA form some had to start bashing Md and blaming the Govt and its location. Sooner or later the amount of Super Bowls will enter the picture. I really don't care where you live. It's like investing money in a bank, you choose the one that gives you the best return on your money and is convenient, that's pretty much how most people decide where to live.
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