Is PA depressing? (Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, York: bill, richest, land)

[bradjl2009]

Government jobs......good luck with relying on those down in Maryland and Virginia in a few weeks. It also doesn't get much more Appalachia in PA than Greene or Fayette Counties.

[Craziaskowboi]

Originally Posted by PA/MDGuy

Western Md has I68 way nicer than any Pa highway...

That's because it's newer than any Interstate in Pennsylvania except for the segment of I-99 near State College.

Originally Posted by pman

yes, PA is all coal country greene county jobless, toothless, and sarcastic, you got it. thank god you moved, otherwise anywhere you lived in PA you would have ended up on welfare as you imply.

Yeah, Greene and Fayette Counties have arguably the worst quality of life in Pennsylvania, so it makes no sense to judge the entire Commonwealth by them.

[PA/MDGuy]

Yes, my post was long, it didn't look long on my pc, it does on my phone. I do find it odd that the lengthy post above it went unanswered since May, while mine being a paragraph longer drew immediate attention. Why was that I wonder? Because it was negative. I may point out that I took great care to repeat that I was not talking about the whole state. I even said I liked Pitt and Philly. I find that many are weak in reading comprehension.I also was not the one who originated the question. I was just lending my opinion. I am a hard working guy, not a Govt worker. I was quoting what a friend said in the mid 80's.I totally agree with that assessment. I do however don't put much faith in statistics of crime and other thing, since one can usually find any statistic to back up ones opinion. There is crime in rural areas as well as urban.Western ,MD has the tourism of Deep Creek, homes and property in Deep Creek are pricey, far from recessed. My point was I would rather live in a good economy and drive to my recreation than live there and drive to the good economy. The large majority of the pro Pa posts are about the scenery.My point was its true, but how far up on your list is that.

[mancat100]

I've noticed that a lot of people from the more depressed parts of PA tend to extrapolate that to the entire state. "X County sucks therefore PA sucks and I need to leave."

They don't take into account that there are several large, highly populated, relatively prosperous regions within the state - Philly, Pitt, Lehigh Valley, South Central (Harrisburg, Lancaster, etc) and also a fair number of good smaller areas (State College, Poconos, numerous good small towns all over).

I haven't noticed this trend as much in other states, but I could be wrong on that.

[pman]

Originally Posted by PA/MDGuy

]Western ,MD has the tourism of Deep Creek, homes and property in Deep Creek are pricey, far from recessed. My point was I would rather live in a good economy and drive to my recreation than live there and drive to the good economy. The large majority of the pro Pa posts are about the scenery.My point was its true, but how far up on your list is that.

I'll admit I didn't make it all the way through your post, though I'm sure you'd prefer to think I simply can't comprehend your articulate thoughts. a cursory look at cumberland md says it's not particularly expensive. nice looking homes for $70k. PA is a much larger state and far more diverse..places like bedford springs might be enough to keep western md afloat but western pa needs much more than that. PA includes incredibly depressed places and thriving places. wealthy and poor, rolling hills and mountains, a great lake, and a northeastern metropolitan area. most people live in a large metro area and drive to recreation.

[PA/MDGuy]

No pman, I think you seem to be an educated native. I will also remind you that im familiar with most of PA take the NE part. I have driven across the state many times, as well as from straight up North by way of 79 or 81. I have family and friends all over PA. I think that a cheap house in Cumberland is still an expensive one in say nemicolon,PA. I'm not sure that Its rational to conclude that because there are a few successful areas economically that the whole state is either, but some elude to that as well. My coworker just showed me stats that Philly ranks 9th in the poorest city in the US with 25% below the poverty level. No Md city listed on the whole list. I think people should live wherever they want. I'm glad your happy, I know I am.

[SPSGuy]

Inner city Baltimore? Cumberland?

[mancat100]

Originally Posted by PA/MDGuy

No pman, I think you seem to be an educated native. I will also remind you that im familiar with most of PA take the NE part. I have driven across the state many times, as well as from straight up North by way of 79 or 81. I have family and friends all over PA. I think that a cheap house in Cumberland is still an expensive one in say nemicolon,PA. I'm not sure that Its rational to conclude that because there are a few successful areas economically that the whole state is either, but some elude to that as well. My coworker just showed me stats that Philly ranks 9th in the poorest city in the US with 25% below the poverty level. No Md city listed on the whole list. I think people should live wherever they want. I'm glad your happy, I know I am.

The City of Philadelphia has poverty issues. The Philadelphia region, as a whole, is prosperous.

[bradjl2009]

Originally Posted by HeneryGreg

everytime I walk up a hill I get depressed.

Every time I see a post from you I don't think they could get dumber but they do. Either you're one of those who just like to complain for attention or you're too dumb to figure out to MOVE if you have so many issues with where you live.

[escilade18]

I know both Greene and Fayette county well as I had also lived there when I was younger. Although I do not care much for the area, it seriously isn't bad unless you go into Western Greene county where there really is nothing. Both have a lot to gain from natural gas drilling.
Moving on, should we say Detroit is depressing, therefore Michigan sucks, or Oakland sucks, therefore CA sucks, or Cumberland is filthy, therefore MD sucks, I can go on and on. PA is one of the better states that, unlike Maryland, does not rely heavily on the Federal government to provide employment. Bringing up the subject of Nemacolin, it was a mining town and when the mines closed down, a few 'slumlords' bought up much of the housing at tax write offs, and a lot of people from WV moved there due to the fact that PA has better welfare. The area has also been a product of corrupt politics (the longtime representative of the area Bill DeWeese is not in prison for corruption), and for one reason or another there is not much meaningful employment in the area other than schools along with restaurants and grocery stores. I just described many post-industrial sections of the US, there are areas such as Youngstown and Flint that look like Nemacolin on Steroids. Also, although living in the Pittsburgh metro is likely going to be more expensive than living in rural western Greene county, it is not impossible to find housing while working in the city.