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Old 10-20-2017, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Originally Posted by mslhu View Post
Lol, this list is just "here are a few cities that appear on other people's completely made up lists that really have no bearing on anything." All of these lists are pointless other than to make the residents of those cities feel good about themselves.

I see you've ignored the City Lab article.

"Pittsburgh is about on par with Seattle" You Pittsburgh people are really interesting, lol.
Yep... yet it's funny WE'RE called the homers... hahaha

I guess they've never been to Seattle. Pittsburgh is about on par with Portland, but even Portland has a more interesting Downtown.
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Old 10-20-2017, 09:28 AM
 
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I'm very familiar. I'm there every other year. Speagles claimed Pittsburgh was a top 10 downtown... it's just not... and THAT my friend is homerism and boosterism if you think it is.

You're adding Oakland and Carson Street to the definition of Downtown Pittsburgh? LOL. Northside? LOL. These places are not connected to Downtown. You cannot walk very easily from Downtown to any of these areas. They are separated by pretty wide rivers, hills, winding/confusing roads, etc... which really do act as barriers for connectivity. They're not rivers like the Schuylkill River or Chicago River either.

Strip District and Hill District have a chance to be connected to, and a part of "Downtown" in the future, but these areas really need to continue to build up in the future.
I wouldn't add the south side or Oakland, but certainly much of the North Side is just as easy if not easier, to walk from the center of the golden triangle, as it is to walk from city hall to many other area of center city Philly. it is actually a shorter distance, less than a mile. And there are plenty of bridges in Pittsburgh, people walk them all the time. its not like Philly where you wouldn't even bother to try to get to a bridge to walk across. also it's connected by the T to the north side (for no charge).

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Old 10-20-2017, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Not to mention Philadelphia doesn't have the Governmental leadership that Pittsburgh has amassed ... The entire WPA (including Erie) has thrown themselves behind Pittsburgh. Philadelphia is competing with its own MSA. Camden, Wilmington, Chester, Bucks County are all competing AGAINST the City of Philadelphia. That's a region fractored, not collaborating, that not going to look good to Amazon, it makes the Region seem like it doesn't have its ducks in row. Another BIG BIG blow to Philly (and I was going to stay away from this). The city lists its highest attributes towards Amazon as Transit, Cheapness (in the NEC) and its closeness to NYC and DC. Come on, you're biggest quality is how close you are to "Other" cities? This is self-defeating on its face. Mentioning closeness to NYC and DC should've been like the 7 or 8 bullet point down after what Philadelphia itself offers right in the city. You can't sell the city itself by mentioning how close you are to the more desirable locales, it just pushes Amazon to those locations. I never like how Philly (even before Amazon) heralded its closeness to NYC as some of sort of prize. It was so self-defeating to me. "settle for us, we're close to NYC" -- WRONG WRONG WRONG ...
Huh... I saw people saying all sorts of positives about the city. Our connectivity to other major cities only enhances an already great city. It's not the only selling point, but from a recruitment perspective, this is something that Pittsburgh just cannot match.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWBwDta3Obc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gipQaVmZvq4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO0mHx-fU18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok1GI9SUxtg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fww6RPCC6yM
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Old 10-20-2017, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I wouldn't add the south side or Oakland, but certainly much of the North Side is just as easy if not easier, to walk from the center of the golden triangle, as it is to walk from city hall to many other area of center city Philly. it is actually a shorter distance, less than a mile. And there are plenty of bridges in Pittsburgh, people walk them all the time. its not like Philly where you wouldn't even bother to try to get to a bridge to walk across. also it's connected by the T to the north side (for no charge).
Hmmm... interesting. The bridges seemed like a major barrier to me. Certainly a much easier and much more pedestrian friendly walk across the Schuylkill River, than the Allegheny.
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Old 10-20-2017, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Can Philadelphia tell the same story?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMCO_NTcRxI
Philadelphia has these cute videos too. They're all over the place.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok9xMh82RgI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLpWMk0AKpc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxCNnkzyqFA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo69bnBCGtc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z2XUYYTwzo

Etc. etc.
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Old 10-20-2017, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Washington County, PA
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Hmmm... interesting. The bridges seemed like a major barrier to me. Certainly a much easier and much more pedestrian friendly walk across the Schuylkill River, than the Allegheny.
Major barrier and pedestrian unfriendly hahahaha you are just picking the worst arguments.

https://www.google.com/search?q=robe...Udm2uhfHe9TLM:
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Old 10-20-2017, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Major barrier and pedestrian unfriendly hahahaha you are just picking the worst arguments.

https://www.google.com/search?q=robe...Udm2uhfHe9TLM:
Is there something seriously wrong with you? Cherry Picking phenom... let's post a picture when the bridge is closed to traffic! Lol.

So let me get this straight.... this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4454...7i13312!8i6656

Is more pedestrian friendly than this?:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9544...7i13312!8i6656

Lol. Just lol.
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Old 10-20-2017, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Clifton, Cincinnati
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Is there something seriously wrong with you? Cherry Picking phenom... let's post a picture when the bridge is closed to traffic! Lol.

So let me get this straight.... this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4454...7i13312!8i6656

Is more pedestrian friendly than this?:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9544...7i13312!8i6656

Lol. Just lol.
As someone who left Pittsburgh after high school, I have to say, there are some serious Pittsburgh boosters on this site. But let's be real here, have you ever crossed that bridge? It's a popular connector between the Cultural District and the North Shore and in no way do you feel like you're going out of your way to get to either. Plus, it's easily connected to the riverfront parks on both sides.

To answer your question. Roberto Clemente Bridge is not only pedestrian friendly, it's bike friendly. And if you HAVE walked on both the Market Street Bridge and Roberto Clemente, I personally feel safer on the latter. It's not as many lanes across, and it feels more pedestrian oriented.

FWIW, I like Philadelphia and I think it has one of the best chances in the country in luring Amazon.
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Old 10-20-2017, 11:06 AM
 
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Is there something seriously wrong with you? Cherry Picking phenom... let's post a picture when the bridge is closed to traffic! Lol.

So let me get this straight.... this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4454...7i13312!8i6656

Is more pedestrian friendly than this?:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9544...7i13312!8i6656

Lol. Just lol.
I think you cherry pick as well. The area around the 30th Street Station is not pedestrian friendly in no way shape or form. The area is not as connected as Ft. Pitt Blvd is to PNC Park period. Once you cross the bridge from the 30th street station you still have a few blocks to walk before you reach pedestrian activity.
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Old 10-20-2017, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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As someone who left Pittsburgh after high school, I have to say, there are some serious Pittsburgh boosters on this site. But let's be real here, have you ever crossed that bridge? It's a popular connector between the Cultural District and the North Shore and in no way do you feel like you're going out of your way to get to either. Plus, it's easily connected to the riverfront parks on both sides.

To answer your question. Roberto Clemente Bridge is not only pedestrian friendly, it's bike friendly. And if you HAVE walked on both the Market Street Bridge and Roberto Clemente, I personally feel safer on the latter. It's not as many lanes across, and it feels more pedestrian oriented.

FWIW, I like Philadelphia and I think it has one of the best chances in the country in luring Amazon.
Yes, I've crossed it.... it feels like you're on a bridge.

When you cross the Schuylkill, it doesn't really feel like you're on a bridge. It's very pedestrian oriented. It's very European.
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