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Old 12-12-2019, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Macon, Georgia
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You want to share ideas for your kids that could help them to prosper for the long haul.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/11/the-...to-expert.html
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Old 12-12-2019, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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You want to share ideas for your kids that could help them to prosper for the long haul.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/11/the-...to-expert.html
Wrong title. It should be, "How to raise a millennial, to fail in life".

Same psychobabble they're been pushing for years. Part of the reason our kids don't leave home anymore, and why they don't have the tools to face adversity.

If you could dry and bag that article, you could double your crops.
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Old 12-12-2019, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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Belongs in Parenting or Psychology, not SS&P...
I must respectfully disagree as we have already treated the topic in our 1880 thread. I have described a solution which worked well in the nineteenth century and would work well today. Needless to say, this treatment is to be applied to delinquents, not to good boys and girls.

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For the lesser offender, we may consider the following and other methods described in the Wikipedia cluster of articles under Corporal Punishment. Caning is quite practical today as judicial canes are available. Caning has proven very useful in schools and carries the support of the miscreants who felt them. The poet Swinburne once requested a photograph of the caning room from a former fellow boy who had become a master at their alma mater. A handsome judicial cane adds an aura of verisimilitude to the elegant 1889 home. The third link will take the reader to a purveyor of judicial canes and more, Judging from the website, there are reenactors who make use of these as well.

In Hitler's Germany the foot whipping method was painful but caused no real injury.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caning

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_whipping

https://www.englishvicecanes.com/lis...classic-dragon

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Old 12-13-2019, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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Sometimes you have to punish. Otherwise kids might not understand consequences of bad actions. And when little kids want to run away from mom in a store or out of the yard, a swift slap on the bottom teaches them not to continue this behavior,

IMO, spanking when warranted is easier on the kid than psychological punishments involving separating the kid in a time out corner. The punishment is swift, the kid know why he is being punished, and it is over quick.

But kids need boundaries and discipline, you can’t never punish. And IMO, you don’t want to be spanking often, or striking an older child. When the kid gets older you can reason with him or her.

However, my grands are being raised without spanking, and their parents are doing a great job. I don’t think there is any one best way to raise kids. I would never, ever spank my grands,

But, kids need to suffer the consequences of bad actions. Sometimes parents need to punish.

IMO, what is damaging is for parents to call their kids “bad.” I never did that.
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:07 AM
 
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Capital punishment still, really? That's no longer a thing for parents who do any homework at all.

https://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/04/spanking
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Old 12-13-2019, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Sometimes you have to punish. Otherwise kids might not understand consequences of bad actions. And when little kids want to run away from mom in a store or out of the yard, a swift slap on the bottom teaches them not to continue this behavior,

IMO, spanking when warranted is easier on the kid than psychological punishments involving separating the kid in a time out corner. The punishment is swift, the kid know why he is being punished, and it is over quick.

But kids need boundaries and discipline, you can’t never punish. And IMO, you don’t want to be spanking often, or striking an older child. When the kid gets older you can reason with him or her.

However, my grands are being raised without spanking, and their parents are doing a great job. I don’t think there is any one best way to raise kids. I would never, ever spank my grands,

But, kids need to suffer the consequences of bad actions. Sometimes parents need to punish.

IMO, what is damaging is for parents to call their kids “bad.” I never did that.
Discipline is helping a child solve a problem.
Punishment is making a child suffer for having a problem.
To raise problem solvers, focus on solutions, not retribution.

~L.R Knost
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Old 12-13-2019, 04:50 PM
 
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Bull C.... Too much psychobabble that doesn't work in the real world. Part of so many problems today is the lack of consequences. If you set good standards and good discipline early one, then you rarely have to resort to punishment. But if you try to play psycho games, you might get obedience, but you also get kids who can't make a decision on their own or who are scared of their own shadow. My wife's parents were very big into the psycho parenting thing. Left their two kids psychologically scarred for life, much more so than appropriate punishment would have. Even today, in her 50s, her dad still uses those techniques to manipulate her. He never got along well with his grandkids because he couldn't manipulate them; they were raised old school. Oldest is a scientist and out on her own. Youngest is a soldier. I'm proud of the capable, self reliant, independent adults they have become.
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Old 12-13-2019, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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Consequences and punishment are two different things.
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Old 12-13-2019, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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Discipline is helping a child solve a problem.
Punishment is making a child suffer for having a problem.
To raise problem solvers, focus on solutions, not retribution.

~L.R Knost
Well, I agree. But sometimes when a kid transgresses you need to punish—especially when what the kid did was expressly forbidden—to help the kid understand that he is not to do what he did again.

And, I do believe in working with kids to help them be resourceful.

I certainly do not believe in constant beating of kids. Or of tearing them down with abusive words. I loved my kids, and I wanted them to be safe, and to feel resourceful.
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Old 12-13-2019, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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I cringe when I hear someone being described as being an expert on parenting. I'd like to ask his kids about that.
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