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Old 04-23-2010, 07:45 PM
 
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So is the case with Honda... Honda cars were first sold only through Honda Motorcycle franchises through the 1960's and even 1970/71.

Suzuki best market and for a time.. the only US market was Hawaii. GM also sold re-badged Suzuki's under the GEO name.

I own one of Consumer Reports worst cars of all time... a Suzuki Samurai. I've had it for many years and continue to be amazed at how rugged and dependable it is. There really isn't anything like it on the American market... true low gear transfer case with rugged frame construction in a small, go anywhere package.

I mostly use mine to move heavy trailers around the yard and to transport diesel fuel for construction equipment.
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tinny, tippy, POS Samurai
Drover, as you can see from the quote above yours, the Samurai is loved those that understand its capabilities. The crucifixion by the media and the nanny state over its inherent 'tippiness' is an example of folks not understanding what some vehicles are designed for and expecting them to be something else.

Samurai's are very much desired by a fairly large portion of the wheeling community for the very reasons that Ultrarunner states above. And, since the safety nazis forced the design change they are commanding some fairly decent prices because they are relatively rare.
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Old 04-23-2010, 07:52 PM
 
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Crucifixion, loved by those who understand its capabilities, Nazis, whatever. I test-drove one and it took me about 45 seconds to know that there was no way I was ever going to spend money for one. Even without the tipping issue, everything about it shouted "cheap!"
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Old 04-23-2010, 07:56 PM
 
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Yeah, well, a Cadillac is not something for me either, but I do not dismiss it as a POS just because it is not for me.

The bigger point is that Suziki was forced to change a design because moron's expected it to be something it wasn't.
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Old 04-23-2010, 07:58 PM
 
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I didn't dismiss the Samurai as a POS because it wasn't for me. I dismissed it as a POS because it was a cheap, tinny, rattling POS that felt about one step above a Yugo in build quality.
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Old 04-23-2010, 07:59 PM
 
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I didn't dismiss the Samurai as a POS because it wasn't for me. I dismissed it as a POS because it was a cheap, tinny, rattling POS that felt about one step above a Yugo in build quality.
You have your opinion, and a ton of wheelers have another. It is being sought after by folks that KNOW how capable it is off road.
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Old 04-23-2010, 08:00 PM
 
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Yes, so you've stated. Now jog along.
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Old 04-23-2010, 08:05 PM
 
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Yes, so you've stated. Now jog along.
No, I will not jog along.

I am speaking to the topic, Suzuki was a victim of the nanny state and morons that do not know that a short wheelbase 4x4 is not intended to handle like a sports car.
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Old 04-23-2010, 08:11 PM
 
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Yeah, totally. If it weren't for that, the Swift and the XC90 would have made them a smashing success.
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Old 04-23-2010, 08:12 PM
 
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And don't bother with the PMs. They will be deleted without being read.
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Old 04-23-2010, 08:13 PM
 
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And don't bother with the PMs. They will be deleted without being read.
Then I will say it here. You have no right or cause to tell me to jog along.

And, you apparently missed the point. No surprise.
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