06-14-2009, 10:14 PM
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Only 20 total PA school even made the total list...FL had 23 in the top 100! I find that hysterical!!! Sorry!!! LOL!!!!!
I dont know why you find it hysterical. Florida is alot larger than Pennsylvania. You are comparing a state of 18 million to a state of 12 million. Florida has alot more schools than PA.
06-14-2009, 10:20 PM
Location: Oviedo, Fl formerly from the Philly Burbs!
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I dont know why you find it hysterical. Florida is alot larger than Pennsylvania. You are comparing a state of 18 million to a state of 12 million. Florida has alot more schools than PA.
Well, I suppose because I live near two of the most highly regarded school districts, neither of which made it. They are super snobs about their education. But...this only used one data point, so it's really not a reasonable point to use to qualify as a 'Best' high school anyway. Puts them on the path tho....
06-14-2009, 10:40 PM
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The problem down here is that overall education is very poor. Do you know anyone can subsitute teach here? All you need is a HS diploma.
06-15-2009, 04:25 AM
Location: Oviedo, Fl formerly from the Philly Burbs!
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Yes, I do understand that, but there are similar complaints in PA (altho I don't think just anyone can sub here...not sure tho).
Underfunding, hate 'teaching to the test', yakety ***....
and yes, I have posted several times about how I see that my daughter coming from here, going into grade 6 there is going to be about a year behind in curriculum, except in Math. She will be taking accelerated math. So in 7th grade, she will be taking high school credit math classes.
I will have her tested for gifted when we get there and see what else I can have her placed in that would be more on her level.
But I am not disputing your points, only saying your State is not the only state with issues.
Should I stay in the district I am in now, the High school has a 10% truancy issue...and a poor standardized test rate. Not exactly sure of the dropout rate but I know the percentage attending college is not great (we live in a relatively blue collar area...not many can afford college). So we were planning a move anyhow before she got to the high school. The Grade school, we love!
And, I think PA ranks so low on this particular benchmark because either FL pays for or really encourages students to take these advanced tests in the schools , where I don't think they do here unless they feel you are 'college material' here. BUT, don't quote me on that...I don't really know. I never heard my neice refer to any of these tests when she was in HS.
06-15-2009, 04:52 AM
Location: NJ but soon to be Orlando area.
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I really am not sure what to make of this report. It doesnt really tell the whole picture. I am from NJ where our schools are consistently known as one of the best if not THE BEST in the country. I didnt count how many NJ schools are in the list, but I know it took me a while to find the first NJ school. NJ consistently ranks high in # of kids taking SAT'S, GRADUATION RATE, # KIDS TAKING AP'S, AND HIGHEST SCORES FOR THESE TESTS.
I think some of these reports are very deceiving. I live in an upper middle class district, where there are tons of parental involvement, almost no crime in my area, next to no one receives free or reduced lunch and the district is constantly boasting that they are the best school around...well, no duh...they shoud be!!!
Even with all the negative talk about Fl schools, I am excited to move to Seminole County. If my child is ahead, I will do what ParrotRosie is and make sure she is in accelerated classes and tested for gifted.
BTW, I found my info on the National Education Assoc. amoung many others.
https://hems.nea.org/goodnews/nj01.html
06-15-2009, 05:58 AM
Location: Central Florida
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See here
Top Public High Schools
Three public high schools....yes THREE, made the top ten list of best public high schools in the country! Thought I would post it up for all to peruse!
Just a shame none are in Central Fl....but....maybe eventually....
And, if I counted correctly, Fl made 23 out of the top 100 list! Yay!!!
www.scps.k12.fl.us
NEWSWEEK Magazine has once again ranked the nation's 27,000+ public high schools according to the Challenge Index developed by Jay Mathews. ALL 8 of Seminole County Public Schools' 4-year public high schools placed in the top 5% of the nation* based on May 2008 data
Seminole County High Schools are all in the top 5% on the list. Hagarty is to new to be ranked.
06-15-2009, 11:45 AM
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ybother, your child may very well be ahead of her peers here, keep in mind there are waitlists for getting kids into magnet schools.
06-15-2009, 02:52 PM
Location: NJ but soon to be Orlando area.
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[quote=seain dublin;9303682]ybother, your child may very well be ahead of her peers here, keep in mind there are waitlists for getting kids into magnet schools.
You just don't decide your kid is advanced and a slot opens up, unless you are looking at private school.
Sometimes kids end up getting quite bored when they transfer in from another state and can't get into a magnet school.
We have a friend whose daughter spent 11th grade with six periods of study hall because she was so far ahead of her classmates having come from NY.
You are going to see a huge difference in schools here compared to NJ.
It is insight like yours that really is valuable to people relocating, please keep your comments coming. I think its a done deal that we will be moving...eventually. We are going to buy within the next 6 to 9 months, but wait until my oldest and middle get out of high school to actually relocate...the poor youngest child will be in 5th grade then. We will either be buying our house with cash or have a small mortgage, so I definitely know I will save money...taxes...dont even get me started. My oldest goes to Catholic high school, so I know all about paying big bucks for the education (6,600 this year and I honestly think the education is much better down the street at the high school my middle will be attending in the fall) but it is her choice to go there
!
Like I said, it will be a while before we relocate so I do have time to figure out the school situation. Do you think the schools in Oviedo and Lake Mary are an actual WHOLE year behind? Not sure exactly what a Magnet school is, but I guess it's something I have to look into! Thanks again.
06-15-2009, 02:57 PM
Location: Oviedo, Fl formerly from the Philly Burbs!
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Like I said, it will be a while before we relocate so I do have time to figure out the school situation. Do you think the schools in Oviedo and Lake Mary are an actual WHOLE year behind? Not sure exactly what a Magnet school is, but I guess it's something I have to look into! Thanks again.
Umm, yes...a WHOLE year...lol. I got the transfer packet for the middle school (we are in PA) and took it to my daughter's 5th grade teacher to help me choose the level of placement (regular, advanced, gifted, etc) and she said....well, she has completed all this work....
It was the same with all her teachers, Reading, Math, Band and Chorus begin in 6th grade there, she has been in both for 2 and 4 years respectively. Ugh...Well in Reading she has no choice, but for math she was able to enroll in advanced math (which is 7th grade level work) so that was good, since math is her thing and reading is not, she lucked out I guess...
I will keep you all posted on how the 'actuality' of it all goes.
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People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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Should I stay in the district I am in now, the High school has a 10% truancy issue...and a poor standardized test rate. Not exactly sure of the dropout rate but I know the percentage attending college is not great (we live in a relatively blue collar area...not many can afford college). So we were planning a move anyhow before she got to the high school. The Grade school, we love!
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