so this whole El Nino thing was a joke?

[Hwnwbrwncw]

Originally Posted by SWCM7950

As usual such a myopic view of the problem. As Americans, worse as Californians, if it doesn't directly affect you it doesn't matter??? The aquifers are running dry because they are supporting rice, avacados, and almonds among other things that have no business being grown in a desert. Forest fires and the billions it costs to fight them is a drag on the economy. Desalination plant huh? It's not up and running yet is it?? and I was there a year ago. Population growth is putting severe pressure on water resources. You can bury your head in the sand like others and pretend reality doesn't exist, but you can't hide from reality's consequences.

You think the central valley is a desert?

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by SWCM7950

As usual such a myopic view of the problem. As Americans, worse as Californians, if it doesn't directly affect you it doesn't matter??? The aquifers are running dry because they are supporting rice, avacados, and almonds among other things that have no business being grown in a desert. Forest fires and the billions it costs to fight them is a drag on the economy. Desalination plant huh? It's not up and running yet is it?? and I was there a year ago. Population growth is putting severe pressure on water resources. You can bury your head in the sand like others and pretend reality doesn't exist, but you can't hide from reality's consequences.

Sorry but SD County is not hurting and if the Desal plant is operating

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Notice I only said SD County was OK and did not mention anyone not having a problem. You seem to want to attack people who do not walk in lock step with you. The Drought is a major problem for CA, just not all of it. Check it out before posting stupidity.

[Des-Lab]

Originally Posted by Hwnwbrwncw

You think the central valley is a desert?

As measured by annual precipitation, most of it IS. Particularly south of Fresno.

Basically Fresno, Visalia, Tulare, Hanford, Lemoore, Porterville, Delano, Bakersfield, and everything in between is, for all intents and purposes, a desert propped up only by irrigation.

There are some parts in that area...especially around the edges of the former Tulare lake bed and north/east of Bakersfield that look like a scene straight out of Eastern Colorado.

[Hwnwbrwncw]

Originally Posted by Des-Lab

As measured by annual precipitation, most of it IS. Particularly south of Fresno.

Basically Fresno, Visalia, Tulare, Hanford, Lemoore, Porterville, Delano, Bakersfield, and everything in between is, for all intents and purposes, a desert propped up only by irrigation.

There are some parts in that area...especially around the edges of the former Tulare lake bed and north/east of Bakersfield that look like a scene straight out of Eastern Colorado.

Agreed, but the northern part isn't... The valley goes all the way up to Redding.

The southern part is literally the armpit of California, with the anus being probably Thermal and environs.

[Des-Lab]

Originally Posted by Hwnwbrwncw

The southern part is literally the armpit of California, with the anus being probably Thermal and environs.

Last I checked, Thermal was out in the Coachella Valley and not anywhere even remotely close to the San Joaquin Valley.

Now: re: the disparaging remarks and contempt that so many express about the Central Valley, I don't get it. I really don't. I'm guessing most of that is simple elitist snobbery (not everyone is able or willing to pay $450k for a crumbling 1200 sq ft fixer-upper in El Monte or 800k for a modern house in North Tustin just for pride of a mailing address) or else simple ignorance where the only impressions these people have of the Valley is whatever thin sliver of it they've seen while driving on I-5 or Hwy 99.

Yes, there are some truly awful places here. Most of western and southern Fresno fits this description as do many of the tiny towns like Earlimart or Orange Cove. But the Central Valley does NOT hold a monopoly on 'ghetto', 'trashy', or 'armpit' regions.

Go drive through East LA or parts of Santa Ana or smell the stench of urine walking down the sidewalks of your beloved San Freakcisco and then come back and tell me how 'bad' it is.

Yes. Much of the Central Valley is remote farmland which is topographically featureless. But that is hardly deserving of such a bad reputation. Farm land is inherently 'boring' scenery by design.

So why would that bother you?

[owl6969]

so this whole El Nino thing was a joke?

Its turning out to be..

[Hwnwbrwncw]

Originally Posted by Des-Lab

Last I checked, Thermal was out in the Coachella Valley and not anywhere even remotely close to the San Joaquin Valley.

Now: re: the disparaging remarks and contempt that so many express about the Central Valley, I don't get it. I really don't. I'm guessing most of that is simple elitist snobbery (not everyone is able or willing to pay $450k for a crumbling 1200 sq ft fixer-upper in El Monte or 800k for a modern house in North Tustin just for pride of a mailing address) or else simple ignorance where the only impressions these people have of the Valley is whatever thin sliver of it they've seen while driving on I-5 or Hwy 99.

Yes, there are some truly awful places here. Most of western and southern Fresno fits this description as do many of the tiny towns like Earlimart or Orange Cove. But the Central Valley does NOT hold a monopoly on 'ghetto', 'trashy', or 'armpit' regions.

Go drive through East LA or parts of Santa Ana or smell the stench of urine walking down the sidewalks of your beloved San Freakcisco and then come back and tell me how 'bad' it is.

Yes. Much of the Central Valley is remote farmland which is topographically featureless. But that is hardly deserving of such a bad reputation. Farm land is inherently 'boring' scenery by design.

So why would that bother you?

San Joaquin Valley (Fresno, Bakersfield, Modesto, etc) is the armpit of CA. Coachella (thermal, Mecca, etc) is the anus.

2 regions 2 body parts. How is that complicated?

[Teckeeee]

We got some good rain the other day but like most things in CA.......it's full of hype.........so yeah Dallas Raines or whatever his real name is was a bit off