[Papillion1707]

SurfO I couldn't have said it any better myself!

[GMinSWO]

Surf I totally agree with you on those topics and it hard to argue for Amendment 416 if the whole religious marriage issue is taken out (which the State should not be taking part in a religious ceremeony in the first place). Just keep the issue about State benefits and the other side's argument is thrown out the window. By the way your last few posts have been good and do much to help the good cause. Like Gold Five said in Star Wars IV: A New Hope "Stay on Target!"

[thatguy1]

Oh man, Star Wars referrences...

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by SurfOmaha

If you had any clue about the issue here in Nebraska, you would know that gay marriage, gay civil unions, and gay domestic partnerships are banned in Nebraska, by Nebraska's gay hating amendment, formerly known as Initiative 416, passed in 2000. Any state law passed to allow a gay person's lifepartner in Nebraska any guarantees of the other possessions would violate this amendment as it is worded, period. Go to the links I posted!!! Any acknowledgement of some type of same-sex relationship is banned in Nebraska by this amendment.

I obviously do not live in NE so can not argue with this. I believe you as I usually trust you have some idea what you are talking about even if I do not agree with you most of the time.

I still have a couple of issues with what a few are saying: 1-no one can stop you from leaving your money to whomever you choose, no one can stop 2 people from buying property together and no one can stop someone from deciding who can be given medical information (this is a federal law) thus we are down to only a few issues.

That being said, I brought us the subject of protesting last week and no matter what, protesting does more harm than good as too often it turns violent. Why is it, often (not always) the same people who think protesting is totally acceptable to prove a point, even if violence arises are the same people who are opposed to capital punishment, abortion, war, etc?

Nita

[Stacy From Cali]

Originally Posted by nmnita

That being said, I brought us the subject of protesting last week and no matter what, protesting does more harm than good as too often it turns violent. Why is it, often (not always) the same people who think protesting is totally acceptable to prove a point, even if violence arises are the same people who are opposed to capital punishment, abortion, war, etc?

Nita

Well as MLK once said: "A riot is the language of the unheard." It shouldn't have to get to that point, but among the voiceless it sometimes does. It would help if more people listened I suppose.

Have a peaceful MLK day.

[DTO Luv]

Originally Posted by nmnita

I still have a couple of issues with what a few are saying: 1-no one can stop you from leaving your money to whomever you choose, no one can stop 2 people from buying property together and no one can stop someone from deciding who can be given medical information (this is a federal law) thus we are down to only a few issues.

That being said, I brought us the subject of protesting last week and no matter what, protesting does more harm than good as too often it turns violent. Why is it, often (not always) the same people who think protesting is totally acceptable to prove a point, even if violence arises are the same people who are opposed to capital punishment, abortion, war, etc?

Nita

1. Nebraska's law does not even let 2 people of the same sex (whether they are gay or not) do any of those things you just mentioned. Before the law was passed people were saying that the way it was written that even things between family members or business partners could be illegal. Nebraska has the most over reaching law in the country.

2. Not all protests are violent. I would imagine most aren't but you've got to raise awareness somehow.

[SurfOmaha]

Originally Posted by nmnita

I obviously do not live in NE so can not argue with this. I believe you as I usually trust you have some idea what you are talking about even if I do not agree with you most of the time.

I still have a couple of issues with what a few are saying: 1-no one can stop you from leaving your money to whomever you choose, no one can stop 2 people from buying property together and no one can stop someone from deciding who can be given medical information (this is a federal law) thus we are down to only a few issues.

That being said, I brought us the subject of protesting last week and no matter what, protesting does more harm than good as too often it turns violent. Why is it, often (not always) the same people who think protesting is totally acceptable to prove a point, even if violence arises are the same people who are opposed to capital punishment, abortion, war, etc?

Nita

If you visit the three links I posted, you would see a few examples of what gays have to deal with here in Nebraska. Remember Nebraska: the good life? IMHO, Its Nebraska The Good Life 4 Bigots. Bigots as in people who came up with, supported and voted for Initiative 416.

[Filet Mignon]

Originally Posted by DTO Luv

1. Nebraska's law does not even let 2 people of the same sex (whether they are gay or not) do any of those things you just mentioned. Before the law was passed people were saying that the way it was written that even things between family members or business partners could be illegal. Nebraska has the most over reaching law in the country.

2. Not all protests are violent. I would imagine most aren't but you've got to raise awareness somehow.

I'm simply calling BS on this one. A friend of mine and I have been talking about buying dilapidated houses, then fixing and selling them.

Both names on all the papers.

No problem.

We might have to incorporate, for tax purposes, but we'd want to do that anyway.


I'm also calling BS on these claims of "denied hospital visitation rights." It's simply not true. I do business in hospitals all the time - and there is NOBODY that is denied visitation to a non-restricted patient, unless said visitor has a contagious disease. This isn't the 50s, when they didn't let anybody under 15 in the hospitals. It's 2009 now.


In other words, it's high time for people to stop constantly pulling out the victim card. It gets old - especially when it's not true.

[Raphael07]

*sigh* 3....... 2............

[DTO Luv]

Originally Posted by Filet Mignon

I'm simply calling BS on this one. A friend of mine and I have been talking about buying dilapidated houses, then fixing and selling them.

Both names on all the papers.

No problem.

We might have to incorporate, for tax purposes, but we'd want to do that anyway.

I'm sure as far as business partners goes this law would be akin to a "don't tie your horse here" law. No one is going to enforce it. However there were many people, including people in the legal community, who brought this up before the initiative was voted on.