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Old 01-17-2008, 08:03 PM
 
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cleveland is flat. that was simple
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:22 PM
 
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it makes me laugh when people from cinci keep saying how their metro is bigger than clevelands. the only reason is akron/suburbs are excluded from msa and only included in csa rankings. (drive around N.E.ohio and then tell me what you think) .when i fly into cleveland at night it is much larger and easy to see the differances of all the cities.cinci is smaller period. but im sure someone fom cinci will try to explain how they keep half the lights out at night which makes them "appear" smaller.
Actually ... Using a "feel" method or "more lights" are seen at night is just moronic. BTW, Cincinnati's downtown is more lit up at night, but you won't hear me say that has anything to do with a city's size.

What people are saying is that, based on factual stats our metro will surpass Cleveland's very soon. Cleveland is shrinking and Cincy is growing. Simple math.

Hillside, do you feel better now seeing numbers?
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:31 PM
 
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cincy rise, i hear you on the stats partner. i just think a little more time needs to pass with a downward trend. cincinnati has proved in the past one big event/catalyst could triple the homicide rate in a few short yrs (2001)
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:49 PM
 
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Columbus is soooooooooooo boring. It's a city of senseless sprawl, endless strip malls, poorly built tract housing all built yesterday (and anything built before 1990 looks like trash), and everything in that town revolves around OSU, boring insurance companies, and 20-something bars.

It's really pointless to try to do a Columbus vs. Cincinnati comparison. The two cities are VERY different, and they're not in competition with each other. It's by far easier for a state capital to maintain a squeaky clean image when it doesn't even come close to having the high levels of urban poverty and blight that Cincinnati has. Cincinnati has a huge swath of old city character that Columbus will never have. Cincinnati has it's problems but I would take Cincinnati and Cleveland anyday over Columbus.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:57 PM
 
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Columbus is soooooooooooo boring. It's a city of senseless sprawl, endless strip malls, poorly built tract housing all built yesterday (and anything built before 1990 looks like trash), and everything in that town revolves around OSU, boring insurance companies, and 20-something bars.

It's really pointless to try to do a Columbus vs. Cincinnati comparison. The two cities are VERY different, and they're not in competition with each other. It's by far easier for a state capital to maintain a squeaky clean image when it doesn't even come close to having the high levels of urban poverty and blight that Cincinnati has. Cincinnati has a huge swath of old city character that Columbus will never have. Cincinnati has it's problems but I would take Cincinnati and Cleveland anyday over Columbus.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:58 PM
 
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cincy rise, i hear you on the stats partner. i just think a little more time needs to pass with a downward trend. cincinnati has proved in the past one big event/catalyst could triple the homicide rate in a few short yrs (2001)
I know the answer to this, I'd like to see if you do ...

You said triple, right?

What was the homicide count on 2000 and then 2001?
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:00 PM
 
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Also, you do know that crime is decreasing in all categories in the city, right?


This "trend" that you speak of ... is this something that you feel could happen in any place at any time?
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:02 PM
 
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preach yomikey...
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:07 PM
 
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2000-22 homicides
2002-65 homicides

City homicides outpacing 2002

Three-year homicide rate rises
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:12 PM
 
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honestly i do think something media-worthy could happen and set things worse...its just a tense city with alot of frustrated citizens man...blacks dont trust the police, whites dont trust the city...nobody thought in 2000 that cinci would be glad per se to be pushing 70 homicides
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