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Old 08-17-2021, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Apex, NC
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Originally Posted by TarHeelNick View Post
Apex definitely "feels" more like it's in the 70k range now that's for sure.
Good or bad, I agree with you. All you have to do is look at the construction starts in the last 2 years. Insane!
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Old 08-17-2021, 02:32 PM
 
Location: charlotte
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NC only grew by 9.5%, and 14 sates grew faster than NC. Georgia grew by 10.6% and SC by 10.7%. The average of all of the southern states was 10.2% so NC was below the average. That seems like a very low count - a bad count.
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Old 08-17-2021, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Charlotte and Raleigh are simply insane with the growth. South Carolina's black population actually declined, and I suspect most of those who left SC, went to Charlotte. Everybody wants to move to Charlotte these days, and Raleigh with those 4,000 Apple jobs coming...and the other major NC cities seemed to have done well as well. Even Fayetteville grew, which can't really be said for any of the places on the 95 corridor on the SC side. Future is bright in NC. Carolinas as a whole has a good outlook ahead.
American Blacks are also coming to Atlanta is large numbers, and South Carolineans have always flocked to the ATL.

Charlotte still be the local favorite though.

But South Carolina's lower taxes will continue to make it a favorite for retirees and it will continue to grow at a pace similar to North Carolina.

The Southeast's cities continue to grow at a staggering rate:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...n-growth-maps/
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Old 08-17-2021, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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NC only grew by 9.5%, and 14 sates grew faster than NC. Georgia grew by 10.6% and SC by 10.7%. The average of all of the southern states was 10.2% so NC was below the average. That seems like a very low count - a bad count.
The rural areas of North Carolina, which are still a high percentage of the state population, are bleeding people and dying. It is easy to look at places like Charlotte, the Triangle, et. and be like "wow this state is booming" but you drive through a LOT of counties and it is pretty bleak / depressing.


Edit: Wrong info here.

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Old 08-17-2021, 03:12 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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The rural areas of North Carolina, which are still a high percentage of the state population, are bleeding people and dying. It is easy to look at places like Charlotte, the Triangle, et. and be like "wow this state is booming" but you drive through a LOT of counties and it is pretty bleak / depressing.

To put things in perspective, the 10 most populous counties in North Carolina only have 35% of the state population. In Georgia, the 10 most populous counties are home to 47% of the state population. The Census showed metro areas / cities are growing and rural areas are rapidly declining, so states that skew towards having more high growth urban populations will grow faster. I think the actual Census showed the estimate methodology used in the "in-between years" had not taken into account just how much the US population has declined in rural census tracts.
According to the 2020 Census, these are the top 10

Wake: 1,129,410
Mecklenburg: 1,115,482
Guilford: 541,299
Forsyth: 382,590
Cumberland: 334,728
Durham: 324,833
Buncombe: 269,452
Union: 238,267
Gaston: 227,943
Cabarrus: 225,804

Total: 4,789,808
NC: 10,439,388
Top ten percentage of total: 45.88%
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Old 08-17-2021, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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According to the 2020 Census, these are the top 10

Wake: 1,129,410
Mecklenburg: 1,115,482
Guilford: 541,299
Forsyth: 382,590
Cumberland: 334,728
Durham: 324,833
Buncombe: 269,452
Union: 238,267
Gaston: 227,943
Cabarrus: 225,804

Total: 4,789,808
NC: 10,439,388
Top ten percentage of total: 45.88%
THANK YOU! My copy and paste from Wiki didn't work too well! Looks like we are comparable to Georgia then. Perhaps our large counties grew smaller than their largest on average or our counties that lost population got hit much harder than their rural counties.

Looks like NC had 51/100 counties experience population decline, while Georgia had 67 of 159 counties lose population.

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Old 08-17-2021, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Research Triangle Area, NC
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Good or bad, I agree with you. All you have to do is look at the construction starts in the last 2 years. Insane!
Or try to navigate through Beaver Creek or the general 55 corridor from Jenks Rd to US-1. Yikes.

When I graduated from Apex High School in 2007, not terribly long ago, Apex basically "ended" about a half mile past the intersection of Kelly Rd (which just barely had a stoplight; let alone its own off-ramp/on-ramp to the then non-existent Western Wake Expressway) and Olive Chapel. Bella Casa was juuuuuust barely getting started and it was thought of as "the boonies" of Apex. The population was right around 35k then. It feels as though it easily doubled to 70k by now.
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Old 08-17-2021, 06:10 PM
 
Location: charlotte
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It’s amazing NC is growing at such a rate despite historically low birth rates and immigration
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NC is currently growing at a greater rate than Georgia.
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It will be very interesting to see the county and municipality level numbers when they come out.


See if/by how much Apex's population surpassed Chapel Hill's to be the 4th most populous city/town in the Triangle; ; if/by how much Wake surpassed Mecklenburg to become the most populous county in the state (that is already regularly referenced so safe to assume it HAS...just by how much of a gap). Wake may have even surpassed Atlanta's Fulton County to become the most populous county in the SE outside of Florida.
Fulton County and Mecklenburg County are almost identical in square miles while Wake is almost 57 percent more square miles than Mecklenburg - 856 vs 547. Wake passing Mecklenburg and Fulton was inevitable. Fulton is 534 square miles.
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Old 08-17-2021, 06:17 PM
 
Location: charlotte
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Today's the day!



Wake 1,129,410
Mecklenburg 1,115,482
Fulton GA 1,066,710

Still a little way to go to best Fairfax VA (1,150,309), and a lot to go for several counties in FL/TX.

Municipal populations (and was it higher+ or lower- than 2019 estimate)
Apex 58,780 -
Cary 174,721 +
Chapel Hill 61,960 -
Durham 283,506 +
Raleigh 467,665 -
Wake Forest 47,601 +
See my above post. Wake has 57 percent more square miles than Mecklenburg- 857 vs 546 while Fulton has 534 square miles. It was inevitable for Wake to pass Mecklenburg and Fulton.
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Old 08-17-2021, 06:20 PM
 
Location: charlotte
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Omaha has been on an annexing spree over the years. I think they added about 15% to their city area since 2010, and they are eyeballing further.

Regardless, Omaha is not really a peer to Raleigh. Any more than El Paso is to Nashville.
Raleigh is 1.4 million and Omaha is almost 1.1 million. Sounds like a peer city to me. Plus warren Buffet lives in Omaha.
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