North Carolina development thread. (Charlotte, Wilmington: converting, municipal, target)
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Hyperloop: Futuristic transit system could come to the Triangle in 'years, not decades
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Imagine shooting through a tube at 671-miles per hour – traveling from Raleigh to Washington D.C. via a half-hour commute.
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But if light rail was shot down, I don't know how this will get the nod, but I hope it does, but I do wonder how much this will cost if it does happen.
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But if light rail was shot down, I don't know how this will get the nod, but I hope it does, but I do wonder how much this will cost if it does happen.
Pipe dream. I am still embarrassed for the Triangle over it’s light rail fiasco.
Pipe dream. I am still embarrassed for the Triangle over it’s light rail fiasco.
If anything, you should be embarrassed that the people doing the planning thought 17 stops meandering through different neighborhoods would be used when it would take 1.5 hours from end to end versus 15 minutes by car.
I mean MARTA in Atlanta goes 75 mph and only has a few stops on each line except to the airport, and that leg takes a considerable amount of time.
You start with a line between two popular, walkable places. If that's a success, then build to the next location in demand, and so forth.
I think the rail cars should be made from plastic like automobiles mostly are now, and with a powerful air conditioning/ heating system.
I'll bet that most of the infrastructure could be made from cheap, lightweight materials too, leaving right of way acquisition the biggest expense.
Home construction, cars, airplanes have migrated to being over half plastic, and then these rail cars are still all metal, steel and each car of the set costs $2 million.
Light rail needs to go faster if it's going to compete with car travel.
The Triangle has such good road connectivity that it's supposed the easiest driving city in the country, so that will have to substantially deteriorate before you're gonna get people out of their cars.
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If anything, you should be embarrassed that the people doing the planning thought 17 stops meandering through different neighborhoods would be used when it would take 1.5 hours from end to end versus 15 minutes by car.
I mean MARTA in Atlanta goes 75 mph and only has a few stops on each line except to the airport, and that leg takes a considerable amount of time.
You start with a line between two popular, walkable places. If that's a success, then build to the next location in demand, and so forth.
I think the rail cars should be made from plastic like automobiles mostly are now, and with a powerful air conditioning/ heating system.
I'll bet that most of the infrastructure could be made from cheap, lightweight materials too, leaving right of way acquisition the biggest expense.
Home construction, cars, airplanes have migrated to being over half plastic, and then these rail cars are still all metal, steel and each car of the set costs $2 million.
Light rail needs to go faster if it's going to compete with car travel.
The Triangle has such good road connectivity that it's supposed the easiest driving city in the country, so that will have to substantially deteriorate before you're gonna get people out of their cars.
Maybe you don't know, but it doesn't hurt to have a lot of stops. The train doesn't have to stop at every one on each run.
If anything, you should be embarrassed that the people doing the planning thought 17 stops meandering through different neighborhoods would be used when it would take 1.5 hours from end to end versus 15 minutes by car.
I mean MARTA in Atlanta goes 75 mph and only has a few stops on each line except to the airport, and that leg takes a considerable amount of time.
I daily ride DC’s Metrorail system, a truly successful subway/heavy rail system that actually has high ridership and has multiple lines and 91 stations and growing.
I daily ride DC’s Metrorail system, a truly successful subway/heavy rail system that actually has high ridership and has multiple lines and 91 stations and growing.
And a failure of a streetcar.
I used to be pro-streetcar but after experiences with ATL’s, DC’s and even Charlotte’s. They are just so slow, so infrequent and so slow. Although they look cool I guess.
IMO, streetcar would be successful if it had its own dedicated lane. But cities are trying to build mass transit systems on a shoe string budget, so instead municipalities get slow as crap, useless and expensive (for how low use they are) form of transit.
At least in DC’s case, it led to a huge revival of a corridor (which is weird that people want to live on the line but not use it lol).
Charlotte, I don’t think the gold like has led to a single development that wouldn’t had already occurred. Wonder about Atlanta’s
The Triangle has such good road connectivity that it's supposed the easiest driving city in the country...
According to who?
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Originally Posted by Charlotte485
And a failure of a streetcar.
I used to be pro-streetcar but after experiences with ATL’s, DC’s and even Charlotte’s. They are just so slow, so infrequent and so slow. Although they look cool I guess.
IMO, streetcar would be successful if it had its own dedicated lane. But cities are trying to build mass transit systems on a shoe string budget, so instead municipalities get slow as crap, useless and expensive (for how low use they are) form of transit.
At least in DC’s case, it led to a huge revival of a corridor (which is weird that people want to live on the line but not use it lol).
Charlotte, I don’t think the gold like has led to a single development that wouldn’t had already occurred. Wonder about Atlanta’s
Streetcar lines aren't for cross-town or long distance trips; they are intended for shorter trips that might be a bit too far to walk but you don't necessarily want to drive. They should have dedicated lanes to operate more efficiently in most places though.
I used to be pro-streetcar but after experiences with ATL’s, DC’s and even Charlotte’s. They are just so slow, so infrequent and so slow. Although they look cool I guess.
IMO, streetcar would be successful if it had its own dedicated lane. But cities are trying to build mass transit systems on a shoe string budget, so instead municipalities get slow as crap, useless and expensive (for how low use they are) form of transit.
At least in DC’s case, it led to a huge revival of a corridor (which is weird that people want to live on the line but not use it lol).
Charlotte, I don’t think the gold like has led to a single development that wouldn’t had already occurred. Wonder about Atlanta’s
The DC streetcar’s failure is attributed to it being a mere 2.2 miles along in a highly congested corridor that makes it often faster to walk, scoot, moped than use it. People in DC would use a longer, faster line and many are proposing extending it much farther, perhaps to Georgetown and over to Anacostia. We want a streetcar that actually goes the distance.
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