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Yes, and it seems that the N&O is well along that path to oblivion.
I think that you are wrong. The actual issues are of minor importance to both sides; they are only fodder. It is simply a pissing contest between two groups of politicians who despise each other, in a culture that has become frightfully polarized, aided and abetted by sources like the N&O who are desperate for raisons d'etre.
No it isn't, it's about discrimination and a party (50s/60s GOP to date) that historically has been intolerant to change and the unknown. They inject fear using baseless and irrational scenarios to galvanize their constituency and it snowballs into talks of little girls in bathrooms with pedophiles. That would scare anybody and then morphs into same sex showers, etc., just crazy.
The Georgia (R) governor vetoed the madness and it went away. But noooo, ole Patty must a gone to Bible study the past couple of months and now he's seen the light. He held the bullypit to halt the pissing contest but decided not to, what a jackass.
No it isn't, it's about discrimination and a party (50s/60s GOP to date) that historically has been intolerant to change and the unknown. They inject fear using baseless and irrational scenarios to galvanize their constituency and it snowballs into talks of little girls in bathrooms with pedophiles. That would scare anybody and then morphs into same sex showers, etc., just crazy.
The Georgia (R) governor vetoed the madness and it went away. But noooo, ole Patty must a gone to Bible study the past couple of months and now he's seen the light. He held the bullypit to halt the pissing contest but decided not to, what a jackass.
You can't be serious. Politicians of all stripes have been doing this kind of stuff for years. Scaring people to get votes. Baseless, irrational scenarios. Remember Lyndon Johnson, and his mushroom-cloud commercials with the little girl, directed against Barry Goldwater? If you vote for Goldwater, we'll have a nuclear war. If you vote for Goldwater, we'll have 500,000 troops in Vietnam. I heard one guy remark that at least that one was correct -- he voted for Goldwater, and sure enough we had 500,000 troops in Vietnam.
About discrimination: Remember that this particular tempest-in-a-teapot didn't originate in the Legislature. They didn't look around and say "Now who can we discriminate against?" Rather, the bill was a direct response to moonbats in Charlotte who willfully stuck their finger into the Legislature's eye. Had the Charlotte crowd not done this, the issue would not have arisen.
You can't be serious. Politicians of all stripes have been doing this kind of stuff for years. Scaring people to get votes. Baseless, irrational scenarios. Remember Lyndon Johnson, and his mushroom-cloud commercials with the little girl, directed against Barry Goldwater? If you vote for Goldwater, we'll have a nuclear war. If you vote for Goldwater, we'll have 500,000 troops in Vietnam. I heard one guy remark that at least that one was correct -- he voted for Goldwater, and sure enough we had 500,000 troops in Vietnam.
About discrimination: Remember that this particular tempest-in-a-teapot didn't originate in the Legislature. They didn't look around and say "Now who can we discriminate against?" Rather, the bill was a direct response to moonbats in Charlotte who willfully stuck their finger into the Legislature's eye. Had the Charlotte crowd not done this, the issue would not have arisen.
They overstepped over a city issue and made state wide sweeping laws that put this state in a bad spot. They didn't just undo the "bathroom moonbat" law they wen't and undid discrimination protection on a state level for EVERYONE. Then for good measure they threw in the state can only mandate minimum wage. This may have been a response to a Charlotte issue, but their response was overstepping and poor.
The NC teacher pipeline, thanks in part to McCrory and the "hate legislature" is down 30+%, it is hard to believe the public educational system in NC will ever rise to the challenge of educating people to the point where they won't be so ignorant as to vote for another McCrory, et. al.
You can't be serious. Politicians of all stripes have been doing this kind of stuff for years. Scaring people to get votes. Baseless, irrational scenarios. Remember Lyndon Johnson, and his mushroom-cloud commercials with the little girl, directed against Barry Goldwater? If you vote for Goldwater, we'll have a nuclear war. If you vote for Goldwater, we'll have 500,000 troops in Vietnam. I heard one guy remark that at least that one was correct -- he voted for Goldwater, and sure enough we had 500,000 troops in Vietnam.
About discrimination: Remember that this particular tempest-in-a-teapot didn't originate in the Legislature. They didn't look around and say "Now who can we discriminate against?" Rather, the bill was a direct response to moonbats in Charlotte who willfully stuck their finger into the Legislature's eye. Had the Charlotte crowd not done this, the issue would not have arisen.
Enough with the red herrings. If your Governor had vetoed the hastily ram down your throat bill, this would all be moot. Is that not clear enough? Other Republicans Governors were wise enough to do so.
But Big Aristotle, he's not my Governor. I voted for the other guy, whatever his name was. Do you remember how McCrory came to be elected? Bev Purdue dropped the ball, announcing her decision not to seek re-election far too late in the cycle, thereby depriving her fellow democrats of the opportunity to field and develop a strong candidate.
And the fact remains that the controversy originated in Charlotte, with moonbats who couldn't leave well enough alone. It has been fueled beyond belief by the Obama administration, to everyone's detriment. I wonder if the Charlotte bats have offered to repeal their little gem, if the Legislature would agree to repeal theirs in return.
The NC teacher pipeline, thanks in part to McCrory and the "hate legislature" is down 30+%, it is hard to believe the public educational system in NC will ever rise to the challenge of educating people to the point where they won't be so ignorant as to vote for another McCrory, et. al.
Sadly, the defunding of education in North Carolina may prove to be the biggest threat to the state's future! The teachers in this state get punished by the GOP-dominated legislature for "supposed political crimes" over which they have no control. You would think the North Carolina legislature were fighting everyday against the New York City teacher's union. There is no teacher's union in North Carolina ...thanks to the GOP, as well as a bunch of namby-pamby, anti-union Democrats that kept this state in the dark and at the bottom of state education rankings for a lot of the 20th century.
Part of the problem of low teacher pay, I blame the teachers for themselves! Squeaky wheels get the grease! If teachers just passively wait for the anti-teacher GOP-dominated legislature to get in a generous mood, they'll be waiting 'till hell freezes over for a raise. A "co-ordinated teacher" sickout might get their attention. If all of the teachers in Charlotte or Raleigh called in sick for a week during the all-important "end of grade" or "no child left behind tests" maybe they'd get some respect. Less of "it's for the children" attitude and more of "show me the money" thinking might prod the legislature into reluctantly loosening the purse strings.
As far as higher education goes, higher costs are less of a strictly North Carolina problem and more of a national one. States have been cutting back funding for their colleges and universities for years, leaving students and their families to shoulder an ever-growing percentage of the tuition bill. Whole new borrowing industries have been created to service loans that the majority of students now need to get a degree. It's not like a generation past, where a student working a summer job might come up with most of the money for the coming year's tuition. You'd have to be the neighborhood drug kingpin for a summer to make enough money to attend Duke for a year!
The community college system in North Carolina is first class and one many other states would do well to emulate. The UNC system is excellent as well, but I believe there is too much emphasis on sports. We would do well to have less Basketball Hall of Fame members and more Nobel Prize winners! This state can do better in many areas, but keeping North Carolina competitive in education is in everyone's interest.
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The representation that NC has at the state level and the national level (congress) does not reflect the total number of votes. Gerrymandering following the 2010 election of a Republican majority to the G.A. has been elevated to an art form. I'd like to see the actual total votes in NC for both Democrats and Republicans for the G.A and compare it to the representation that we have.
Here's a story about the 2014 midterms for US congress seats inclusive of a great set of graphics that show exactly how gerrymandered NC is at the federal level. Gerrymandering Rigged the 2014 Elections for GOP Advantage | BillMoyers.com
All of this gerrymandering was made possible by a disappointed moderate and liberal electorate (because the horrible economy Obama inherited didn't turn around in less than 2 years), coupled with the racism and "he's not an American" sentiment that was thrown at Obama during his first term. It was a perfect storm that allowed the Republicans to completely dominate the 2010 midterms.
IMO, the only ways that the Democrats can make a dent into the G.A. representation are as follows:
Demographic change in districts that sit on the edge of the major cities may mean more Democrats voting in the R+1 or R+2 drawn districts
Older, more conservative voters dying and not being replaced 1:1 with new conservative voters. This includes the racial shift in the state toward more minority voting participation.
Large scale disillusionment of parts of the Republican base in urban and suburban districts
Anger on the left that matches the anger on the right following Obama's election (Trump, anyone?)
Continued rapid social change that widens the gap between the general culture and Republican party platform.
Of course, I think that the operatives in the Republican Party know all these things and that is why they employ tactics that reduce voting participation by making it harder and why divisive issues like HB2 (that motivate their base) always find a way to pop up especially in presidential election years.
North Carolina behaves totally moderate to progressive in its urban areas but mostly conservative in its small towns and countryside. The state will continue to battle it out culturally as long as there is a reasonable amount of parity between the populations of the two faces of the state.
But Big Aristotle, he's not my Governor. I voted for the other guy, whatever his name was. Do you remember how McCrory came to be elected? Bev Purdue dropped the ball, announcing her decision not to seek re-election far too late in the cycle, thereby depriving her fellow democrats of the opportunity to field and develop a strong candidate.
And the fact remains that the controversy originated in Charlotte, with moonbats who couldn't leave well enough alone. It has been fueled beyond belief by the Obama administration, to everyone's detriment. I wonder if the Charlotte bats have offered to repeal their little gem, if the Legislature would agree to repeal theirs in return.
At this point, politically, that would seem like such a waste. What was it that a certain someone's campaign manager, who has his own crisis now, said.....ah yes, "Never let a good crisis go to waste". Now that the POTUS has decided to be the official decider of all things crap and has taken a great interest in ensuring that little girls get a first hand introduction to a males penis in a shower, because it is the right thing to do....he is somehow making the state of NC look good again. McCrory should ride that sucker until a lightning bolt from the sky comes down and strikes our freaking leader of the less free world in the head, just like in that movie I forget now, and straightens his brain out so right that he can't help but do the next right thing. He will be like a completely different man, which we could use about now with these crazy things happening all around us and not a sane person in the room to clue anyone in.
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This state can do better in many areas, but keeping North Carolina competitive in education is in everyone's interest. 
