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Is there a construction due to expansion going on? Yes, absolutely.
I've been to Cherokee casino a bunch of times and can say with 100% certainty that it is NOT a dump so the post above is false. Again, people post exaggerated, uncommon/unproven/false situations to try to prove a point that is just not there.....
you've "been to Cherokee" so the "post above is false"?
I'm not religious and it plays no role in my view on this topic. My point is that AC isn't something to strive for because it is a dump. Maybe it was a worse dump before, but it is still a dump today. I don't think a NC casino will turn the NC county /town into AC, but people pointing to AC as a positive example to support their pro-casino argument are only weakening their position. It is laughable.
The old "jobs, jobs, jobs" chant is political theater that plays well here on city-data. At the end of the day the it will be the politicians that decide if a South Carolina Tribe gets to build a Casino in North Carolina. That's the real issue here and what is holding it up. The rest is just media fodder. Besides, the real winners if the casino is built is the Tribe that owns it and the State that taxes it. Once the casino is built or not built... people will look back 20 years from now and realize it didn't make any real measurable difference either way to the vast majority of residents in that county.
But please, don't let something like critical thinking get in the way of the old folksy stances and jobs, jobs, jobs rhetoric. That would make city-data too boring.
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I'm not religious and it plays no role in my view on this topic. My point is that AC isn't something to strive for because it is a dump. Maybe it was a worse dump before, but it is still a dump today. I don't think a NC casino will turn the NC county /town into AC, but people pointing to AC as a positive example to support their pro-casino argument are only weakening their position. It is laughable.
The old "jobs, jobs, jobs" chant is political theater that plays well here on city-data. At the end of the day the it will be the politicians that decide if a South Carolina Tribe gets to build a Casino in North Carolina. That's the real issue here and what is holding it up. The rest is just media fodder. Besides, the real winners if the casino is built is the Tribe that owns it and the State that taxes it. Once the casino is built or not built... people will look back 20 years from now and realize it didn't make any real measurable difference either way to the vast majority of residents in that county.
But please, don't let something like critical thinking get in the way of the old folksy stances and jobs, jobs, jobs rhetoric. That would make city-data too boring.
For the last time, You brought up AC. I know what it was before I cast a vote for the casinos. Since you didn't answer the direct question, I will assume that you had not been born when I cast that vote. No one on this thread has held AC up as a shining example of anything other than proof that casinos make jobs. I have previously stated that AC, Vegas, & Reno are off limits in this thread. Got that, Ace?
Once the casino is built or not built... people will look back 20 years from now and realize it didn't make any real measurable difference either way to the vast majority of residents in that county.
But please, don't let something like critical thinking get in the way of the old folksy stances and jobs, jobs, jobs rhetoric. That would make city-data too boring.
What kind of reasoning is this?
Again, for all the naysayers, have you looked at SIMILAR models like Mohegan Sun or Foxwoods? Forget Atlantic City, we are talking about casinos in non-populated areas away from metro areas....
Do you know how many people locally have been employed because of those casinos? How about all the people (like myself) who make a day of it and go to visit local places near Foxwoods like Mystic, and stay at a hotel near there and do sightseeing...
Don't you think if there was a first class casino resort, the same people who come from hundreds of miles away will pump money in Charlotte and the local economy? It'll give them a reason to see the Nascar HofFame, or spend some time in Uptown.....it will also give locals a chance for employment and a path to a career advancement....do you guys think of that or do you just intentionally disregard it because there's really no argument?
So far, the only defense of the naysayers have been far fetched unsubstantiated examples of granny getting mugged, or its not going to make any difference to the local economy.... jeez....
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The casino was the lead story in the local weekly. kmherald.com
The story referenced that some of the people in the legislature who are leading the charge against the casino have taken campaign money from the Cherokees. EASTERN BAND OF CHEROKEE INDIANS | Follow The Money
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What kind of reasoning is this?
Again, for all the naysayers, have you looked at SIMILAR models like Mohegan Sun or Foxwoods? Forget Atlantic City, we are talking about casinos in non-populated areas away from metro areas....
Do you know how many people locally have been employed because of those casinos? How about all the people (like myself) who make a day of it and go to visit local places near Foxwoods like Mystic, and stay at a hotel near there and do sightseeing...
Don't you think if there was a first class casino resort, the same people who come from hundreds of miles away will pump money in Charlotte and the local economy? It'll give them a reason to see the Nascar HofFame, or spend some time in Uptown.....it will also give locals a chance for employment and a path to a career advancement....do you guys think of that or do you just intentionally disregard it because there's really no argument?
So far, the only defense of the naysayers have been far fetched unsubstantiated examples of granny getting mugged, or its not going to make any difference to the local economy.... jeez....
Hate to jump in & spoil the hateful banter, but just to clarify, I said Cherokee is a dump.. Q was, "Is Cherokee a dump?" Yes it is. The casino looks fine, but it doesn't fit in the rundown, unkept tourist trap that is Cherokee. When you see the casino sitting there, you think that's odd. It's like seeing a banker in a 3-piece suit with shiny shoes & perfectly manicured nails standing in line at a carnival.
The question is really how casinos effect the area they're in. There are more jobs, sure, but there's also more crime & a certain air of depravity & desperation...
Hate to jump in & spoil the hateful banter, but just to clarify, I said Cherokee is a dump.. Q was, "Is Cherokee a dump?" Yes it is. The casino looks fine, but it doesn't fit in the rundown, unkept tourist trap that is Cherokee. When you see the casino sitting there, you think that's odd. It's like seeing a banker in a 3-piece suit with shiny shoes & perfectly manicured nails standing in line at a carnival.
The question is really how casinos effect the area they're in. There are more jobs, sure, but there's also more crime & a certain air of depravity & desperation...
Just my opinion. on this forum, for opinions.
That's fine, but You lost all your credibility when you quoted an anti-gambling blog, and told of an unproven story of granny getting mugged from 2001. Are you guys that desperate that you couldn't get something substantiated from within say more recent from 12 years ago? Can't you try a little harder to find some other biased reports?
Why don't you quote how much money was pumped into Swain and Jackson Counties? The number was roughly $300 Million in 2009. How about all the local jobs from construction to security, to hospitality to name a few that were created because of this?
I get it. No matter how much its helped thousands of people, You abhor 'gambling', and think its evil, and anything associated with it is 'sinful'....you guys need to man up and admit it....at least we can have an honest conversation instead of quoting untruths from over a decade ago.
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jeez....
