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family was better in the good old days in my opinion in MOST cases.
I don't know about that. Let's take Leave It To Beaver as an example
If Leave It To Beaver truly mirrored real life as it was back then, here's what the character descriptions might look like:
Ward Cleaver: Alcoholic, workaholic, beats his sons with a belt. Bones his secretary on the side. His country club won't allow minorities or Jews to be members. The neighborhood where he bought his home is deed-restricted to white Anglo-Saxon protestant homeowners only. Drives drunk.
June Cleaver: June would be banging Larry Mondello's dad, Pops prescription Nembutal, and has an unlimited refills script for amphetamine-based diet pills. Her woman's club membership restrictions mirror her husband's country club. Drives high.
Wally Cleaver: Wally would have the clap because he banged the town punchboard at a drunken football party and pretends to like girls because of what he faces from family, friends, church and community if he were to be outed.
Beaver Cleaver: As the baby of the family, he's spoiled rotten. Wally resents him and makes his life as miserable as he can. Beaver has been regularly sexually abused by his pastor and little league coach since he was 5 all the while torturing and killing household pets, but is afraid to say anything lest his abusers carry out their threats of killing his parents.
I don't know about that. Let's take Leave It To Beaver as an example
If Leave It To Beaver truly mirrored real life as it was back then, here's what the character descriptions might look like:
Ward Cleaver: Alcoholic, workaholic, beats his sons with a belt. Bones his secretary on the side. His country club won't allow minorities or Jews to be members. The neighborhood where he bought his home is deed-restricted to white Anglo-Saxon protestant homeowners only. Drives drunk.
June Cleaver: June would be banging Larry Mondello's dad, Pops prescription Nembutal, and has an unlimited refills script for amphetamine-based diet pills. Her woman's club membership restrictions mirror her husband's country club. Drives high.
Wally Cleaver: Wally would have the clap because he banged the town punchboard at a drunken football party and pretends to like girls because of what he faces from family, friends, church and community if he were to be outed.
Beaver Cleaver: As the baby of the family, he's spoiled rotten. Wally resents him and makes his life as miserable as he can. Beaver has been regularly sexually abused by his pastor and little league coach since he was 5 all the while torturing and killing household pets, but is afraid to say anything lest his abusers carry out their threats of killing his parents.
What a bunch of BS. I grew up in that time. No one I knew acted that way. You took a few extreme examples and think they apply to everyone.
In my grade school in the entire 6 years 1 kid had divorced parents. I never saw an intoxicated woman until I was an adult, and the woman was my age.
I don't know about that. Let's take Leave It To Beaver as an example
If Leave It To Beaver truly mirrored real life as it was back then, here's what the character descriptions might look like:
Ward Cleaver: Alcoholic, workaholic, beats his sons with a belt. Bones his secretary on the side. His country club won't allow minorities or Jews to be members. The neighborhood where he bought his home is deed-restricted to white Anglo-Saxon protestant homeowners only. Drives drunk.
June Cleaver: June would be banging Larry Mondello's dad, Pops prescription Nembutal, and has an unlimited refills script for amphetamine-based diet pills. Her woman's club membership restrictions mirror her husband's country club. Drives high.
Wally Cleaver: Wally would have the clap because he banged the town punchboard at a drunken football party and pretends to like girls because of what he faces from family, friends, church and community if he were to be outed.
Beaver Cleaver: As the baby of the family, he's spoiled rotten. Wally resents him and makes his life as miserable as he can. Beaver has been regularly sexually abused by his pastor and little league coach since he was 5 all the while torturing and killing household pets, but is afraid to say anything lest his abusers carry out their threats of killing his parents.
That normally pertains to people that live in Western New York
Btw, they have shown in studies that we ALL romanticize the past.
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Originally Posted by 30to66at55
Nice irrelevant toss of the race card.
Not really. It is relevant. White males had it pretty good back in the old days. Everyone else - not so much. Sometimes, where you stand on something depends on where you sit.
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Originally Posted by Angelcake4
My mom has that attitude, but a bit more severe - along the lines of "today's society is terrible, perverse and nothing like it was in the past. I feel sorry for my grandchildren and what awaits them." I'm a big history buff and at times I am overcome with grief at what some people have had to go through (and continue to go through in some parts of the world) so I really lose my patience when people start lamenting the old days just because something is in the news about social media or nudity, etc.
I have heard people say this before - nudity or relaxed sexual mores mean we are worse as a society, blah, blah, blah, than we were in the good old days. There were things in the past (lynching come to mind) that were far worse.
When people talk about how "the past was better" I don't think it's necessarily a sign of being stuck in the past or of dwelling on the past, but rather it's an indication of noticing the difference between the world of the present day and that of the past. Sure, in the present day, technology overall has improved. Nevertheless, certain things have changed for the worse.
If the past is all that a person talks about, then that's a different story.
Some people who are older may prefer their past because they were more able-bodied - I get that. If you have arthritis and trouble walking, your spouse is dead, kids are gone and moved too far but you can't see them, etc... I could see why you might feel that way. But I agree that it gets annoying. What a waste of your current time. You could be having some great days if you weren't so stuck in the past.
I just moved from a part of the country where all they do is talk family and the past. Like a mass pool of stagnating energy. Hehe. It's kinda how they see things, through the past. I understand it once in a while, but not a steady diet of it. Was pretty irritating!
I don't know about that. Let's take Leave It To Beaver as an example
If Leave It To Beaver truly mirrored real life as it was back then, here's what the character descriptions might look like:
Ward Cleaver: Alcoholic, workaholic, beats his sons with a belt. Bones his secretary on the side. His country club won't allow minorities or Jews to be members. The neighborhood where he bought his home is deed-restricted to white Anglo-Saxon protestant homeowners only. Drives drunk.
June Cleaver: June would be banging Larry Mondello's dad, Pops prescription Nembutal, and has an unlimited refills script for amphetamine-based diet pills. Her woman's club membership restrictions mirror her husband's country club. Drives high.
Wally Cleaver: Wally would have the clap because he banged the town punchboard at a drunken football party and pretends to like girls because of what he faces from family, friends, church and community if he were to be outed.
Beaver Cleaver: As the baby of the family, he's spoiled rotten. Wally resents him and makes his life as miserable as he can. Beaver has been regularly sexually abused by his pastor and little league coach since he was 5 all the while torturing and killing household pets, but is afraid to say anything lest his abusers carry out their threats of killing his parents.
Yikes. I'd like to go back about 8 months before my husbands retirement, a friends suicide, and now pending loss of my job. Those were the good old days when things were status quo.
When people talk about how "the past was better" I don't think it's necessarily a sign of being stuck in the past or of dwelling on the past, but rather it's an indication of noticing the difference between the world of the present day and that of the past. Sure, in the present day, technology overall has improved. Nevertheless, certain things have changed for the worse.
If the past is all that a person talks about, then that's a different story.
That is the exact point of me starting this thread, my friend is obsessed with how he thinks the past was better, and all he talks about. Very good clarification you made.
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Yikes. I'd like to go back about 8 months before my husbands retirement, a friends suicide, and now pending loss of my job. Those were the good old days when things were status quo.
