Why doesn't PATH have a train from Newark to 33rd? (Jersey City: mall, gardens)
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Theres not enough capacity , unless you have 4 billion $$ for 2 new tunnels. + That money would go to a PATH Overhaul and extension to EWR and Elizabeth. But there will be a new Light Rail line built sometime later this decade form Hoboken Terminal to Journal SQ to Secacus JCT or North Newark.
I read that right after 9/11 they had a Newark-33rd st line why didn't they keep it? Kind of like how you can go either way from Hoboken.
Getting to Red Bull Arena from 33rd Street - PATH - Port Authority of New York & New Jersey (http://www.panynj.gov/path/red-bulls-info-33-harrison.html - broken link)
Really its just a few minutes away..not like hours!
I read that right after 9/11 they had a Newark-33rd st line why didn't they keep it? Kind of like how you can go either way from Hoboken.
After 9/11 they had a Newark to 33rd Street Line because the WTC Path Station was destroyed, and Exchange Place station in Jersey City had to be sealed off because of the danger of flooding the system, and by extension the NYC Subway system. Once the temp PATH station at the WTC reopened in 2003 and the system was running again, the Newark - WTC line reverted back to the way it was.
It's no big deal--you simply get off one train at Journal Square, walk across the platform, and catch the other train on the other track.
I was just thinking that Hoboken is more connected, I guess for the obvious reason that it is closer, than Newark and most of JC. I don't know it just seems easier that there is one train from there to every station.
Hoboken also has to take in all of the people stepping off the NJT trains upstairs, so it makes sense to have many more trains running there. The trains that pick up at Newark are pretty much all on their way to Penn anyway. Besides, there seems to always be a 33rd st train waiting at Journal Sqaure anyway.
To me it seems like Hoboken is treated like it like it is larger than Newark and Jersey City. It's almost like it is the transportation hub of North Jersey. Even tho Newark has Greyhound and some other long distance transportation options that Hoboken doesn't have, it still seems regionally Hoboken is treated better with transportation options. And is kept a decent level above JC with the lack of NJ Transit there, despite JC being the county seat in which Hoboken is located in.
Since the tracks continue and are the same, I don't understand why? Is it operating cost? Please explain how they don't have the capacity for this? It's not like they need new tunnels, the trains already share tracks and even stop at the same platforms at Grove Street.
Since the tracks continue and are the same, I don't understand why? Is it operating cost? Please explain how they don't have the capacity for this? It's not like they need new tunnels, the trains already share tracks and even stop at the same platforms at Grove Street.
Capacity wise , the PATH Tubes are already over capacity by 10-15 trains a day. If you ride the PATH on the weekends , you'll see. Trains are delayed while switching under Jersey City up to 10 mins. On the weekdays its speed up , you only wait a min 5. The PA is slowly upgrading the PATH , but that won't change the lines. An Extension to EWR and possibly Midtown Elizabeth via the Jersey Gardens Mall is planned to start sometime this decade. NJT is planning to build a Light Rail / Commuter line form Hoboken Terminal to Journal SQ and then to Secacus JCT or North Newark. It would use abandoned lines and would be the cheapest line every built. Most of the Tracks and ROW is still there, except they would have to replace the Hackensack River bridge. But i don't see why you can't just switch the platforms at Journal SQ , it only takes a few mins.
To me it seems like Hoboken is treated like it like it is larger than Newark and Jersey City. It's almost like it is the transportation hub of North Jersey. Even tho Newark has Greyhound and some other long distance transportation options that Hoboken doesn't have, it still seems regionally Hoboken is treated better with transportation options. And is kept a decent level above JC with the lack of NJ Transit there, despite JC being the county seat in which Hoboken is located in.
The PATH in its previous incarnation was built in the 1890's to service the commuter lines, and Hoboken Terminal was built in 1907. It's not that the city of Hoboken itself is what's being serviced, it's just that this was the way a good-sized chunk of the NJ-to-NY rail transportation system was laid out more than a century ago.
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