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What irks most people about Christie is his do I as I say and not as I do policies. His words would carry a lot more meaning if he actually played by his own rules.
do you think anybody believes you when you say this?
All of these points just pretty much prove that no politician is above the fray. What irks most people about Christie is his do I as I say and not as I do policies. His words would carry a lot more meaning if he actually played by his own rules. I know the right will defend him regardless of what he does but the truth is in the pudding. The guy does not play by the rules that he would like to set for everyone else.
Very well stated! Repped you for the prior post, tho, can't again.
Yes ... the sacrifice is for all of us middle and lower class to share. DAMN him and any other heartless b4st4rd who defends him! Absolutely reprehensible!
I don't care how much money he makes. He is worth it. Anyone strong enough to beat down the selfish, collectivist, socialist unions is fine by me. I think we should triple his salary.
I can't necessarily prove that unionized, well-paid teachers cause us to have some of the best schools in the US, although the quality of teachers leads me to believe it does. This makes jobs like, I dunno....REALTORS...easier than selling trailers in Kentucky. And I know neither your nor our bloated, loud-mouth, mess of a governor can prove that a charter or privatized school system would be better either. IMO it would be far worse for 90% of NJ towns.
do you think anybody believes you when you say this?
They dont need to believe me they can actually see the hypocritical positions that he has taken on many of his ideas. Let me guess you would like me to list them? Sorry I have done that already many times but regardless of what happens you wont accept reality. I am the wrong guy to knock on Christie because I can see a lot of good in things he has done. Sadly he has a lot of inconsistencies that I just dont agree with.
They dont need to believe me they can actually see the hypocritical positions that he has taken on many of his ideas. Let me guess you would like me to list them? Sorry I have done that already many times but regardless of what happens you wont accept reality. I am the wrong guy to knock on Christie because I can see a lot of good in things he has done. Sadly he has a lot of inconsistencies that I just dont agree with.
its not whether or not they believe he is a hypocrite. the thing that isnt believable is the notion that you would feel differently about him if you felt he wasnt a hypocrite. you would hate him either way. which is perfectly fine. just no sense saying the bs you did about what really bothers people is him being a hypocrite.
I can't necessarily prove that unionized, well-paid teachers cause us to have some of the best schools in the US, although the quality of teachers leads me to believe it does. This makes jobs like, I dunno....REALTORS...easier than selling trailers in Kentucky. And I know neither your nor our bloated, loud-mouth, mess of a governor can prove that a charter or privatized school system would be better either. IMO it would be far worse for 90% of NJ towns.
Don't personalize the argument. Let's simply move towards freedom. Collectivism and socialism are failed methodologies. Unions should be made purely voluntary. Closed shops should be outlawed. Union membership should always be completely optional. Union dues should be completely optional. Collective bargaining should be outlawed to the extent that any person is required to be represented by the collective. Make it optional. Make it free.
America is supposed to be all about freedom. Let's return to that ideal. It once made us great. It can make us great again.
If not, collectivism, socialism, and state run education eventually and inevitable lead to variations of this:
They dont need to believe me they can actually see the hypocritical positions that he has taken on many of his ideas. Let me guess you would like me to list them? Sorry I have done that already many times but regardless of what happens you wont accept reality. I am the wrong guy to knock on Christie because I can see a lot of good in things he has done. Sadly he has a lot of inconsistencies that I just dont agree with.
We have gone down this road before. If the worst you can say is that he is a hypocrite, and you truly believe he is good for the state, as you say you do, then why harp on the fact that he is a hypocrite? We have already been there and done that. What you are going to end up doing is replacing a hypocrite that is good for the state with a hypocrite that is bad for the state.
Every European nation that has a large public sector is on the verge of default and in need of massive bailouts. Not coincidentally, the states in the US that have the largest debts are the left leaning states.
Do we really want to go back to the days of massive borrowing with debt levels that are unsustainable? Do we really want to go back to the days of governors who "Dont want to play Scrooge" with our money? Do we really want to go back to days of unlimited yearly raises for state workers even though we cant afford what we are already paying them? Do we really want to go back to the days where governors only TALK about decreasing the debt, but dont actually DO anything about it...except raise taxes, that is.
There are a lot of people on this board (mostly public sector workers) who would like to go back to those destructive days. It is obvious that what they are doing here is campaigning for "anyone but" Christie. They are relentlessly trying to make people forget that Christie is the best governor this state has seen in a very long time. Notice that you dont see them compare him to any of the governors of the recent past, because that will shine a light on how bad we were off BEFORE Christie took office.
We have gone down this road before. If the worst you can say is that he is a hypocrite, and you truly believe he is good for the state, as you say you do, then why harp on the fact that he is a hypocrite? We have already been there and done that. What you are going to end up doing is replacing a hypocrite that is good for the state with a hypocrite that is bad for the state.
Every European nation that has a large public sector is on the verge of default and in need of massive bailouts. Not coincidentally, the states in the US that have the largest debts are the left leaning states.
Do we really want to go back to the days of massive borrowing with debt levels that are unsustainable? Do we really want to go back to the days of governors who "Dont want to play Scrooge" with our money? Do we really want to go back to days of unlimited yearly raises for state workers even though we cant afford what we are already paying them? Do we really want to go back to the days where governors only TALK about decreasing the debt, but dont actually DO anything about it...except raise taxes, that is.
There are a lot of people on this board (mostly public sector workers) who would like to go back to those destructive days. It is obvious that what they are doing here is campaigning for "anyone but" Christie. They are relentlessly trying to make people forget that Christie is the best governor this state has seen in a very long time. Notice that you dont see them compare him to any of the governors of the recent past, because that will shine a light on how bad we were off BEFORE Christie took office.
I love to break it to you but as of today Christie has done nothing at all to cure our major problems. Great ideas but if you can politic enough to get anything done you are cooked. Not saying its all his fault but his demeanor does not help in the negotiations process. He could have cut a nice deal with the CWA but is sticking to his plan which will never ever pass the senate. In the mean time nothing gets done other the rhetoric on both sides.
Sorry I cant get over the hypocrite part because thats how I was raised. How in gods green earth do you want other in power to do the right thing when you yourself dont. Just tough to hear when I see all the crazy stuff going on his office.
Decent Gov....yes. Benevolent and different....No.
its not whether or not they believe he is a hypocrite. the thing that isnt believable is the notion that you would feel differently about him if you felt he wasnt a hypocrite. you would hate him either way. which is perfectly fine. just no sense saying the bs you did about what really bothers people is him being a hypocrite.
Thanks for telling me how I feel. You know me soo well.
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Absolutely reprehensible!
