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Old 08-12-2010, 06:30 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Sure, you can still find books to read - but you'll pay for them (which many people can't afford to do). I take enough books out of the library in a year to make me more than happy to pay the small amount of my property taxes that fund the library - sorry for you if you don't.
when i value something, im willing to pay for it. it seems like if you value something, you want other people to pay for it for you. great that it works out for you, but its not really a good thing for most people.
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Old 08-12-2010, 10:53 PM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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They can always go to Barnes & Noble.
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Old 08-13-2010, 06:27 AM
 
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I don't think the question is whether libraries are good. The question is: Is it a proper role of government to confiscate private wealth and build and maintain free libraries?

The answer for me is no. I do believe that libraries are fundamentally good. I also believe they should charge a user fee, have fund-raisers, and be self-sustaining.

If none of that works, then they were not worth it in the first place.

I think citizens who use libraries should question themselves as to whether it is fair for them to receive free library benefits, when their fellow citizens are unemployed or underemployed and losing their homes.

And I do not want to hear the argument about how "little" the cost is. It is not a small cost, it is a huge cost. Each library is duplicated in hundreds of locations and requires millions and millions of dollars taken from the private citizen by force in the form of taxes.

Can it be fair or right to have the government doing this? No.
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Old 08-13-2010, 10:12 AM
 
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when i value something, im willing to pay for it. it seems like if you value something, you want other people to pay for it for you. great that it works out for you, but its not really a good thing for most people.
How far can you take that argument - in all the years I've paid property taxes, I've never had a fire, but I'm paying for the township's fire trucks. My home has never been broken into, but I'm paying for the local police.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this - Our country has as one of its main tenets the value of an educated population. To me, libraries are an important part of that.
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Old 08-14-2010, 08:45 AM
 
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The cities mentioned earlier constantly receive an incredible amount of tax money from the state. How is it they can't keep their libraries open in the first place?
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Old 08-26-2010, 02:27 PM
 
Location: NJ
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How far can you take that argument - in all the years I've paid property taxes, I've never had a fire, but I'm paying for the township's fire trucks. My home has never been broken into, but I'm paying for the local police.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this - Our country has as one of its main tenets the value of an educated population. To me, libraries are an important part of that.
where are these main tenets written?

you know that libraries have no educational value. they are a publically funded internet cafe.
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