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Old 07-07-2010, 09:04 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Gov. Christie to borrow $1.4B to fund N.J. transportation projects | NJ.com

Ah , seems like Christie is a hypocrite. Borrowing form the feds, i thought Republicans were trying to cap spending..... Raise the Gas Tax Already.......and fund it permanently.........
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Old 07-07-2010, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Ocean County, NJ
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Riiiight. Because raising the gas tax - pretty much the ONLY tax of which New Jersey doesn't have the highest rate in the nation - is exactly what working families who already can't afford this state need. Imagine paying $.50 more per gallon ON TOP of the highest property taxes in the nation, plus sky-high sales and income taxes? It would only make this state more expensive and less liveable for the middle class. It's amazing how people don't understand that a lot of folks out there do not HAVE any more money to spend on gas per week.

What we need to do is to CUT SPENDING. That means taking care of our highways without borrowing or raising taxes on the most-taxed state populace in America. They probably waste enough money ever week in the Newark school system to pave every state road with gold. Curtail spending on the urban political machine that sucks this state dry and we'll be fine. Until then... borrow... spend... tax.
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Old 07-08-2010, 01:46 AM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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Can't say I approve of everything he does but this doesn't bother me.
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Old 07-08-2010, 04:59 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Riiiight. Because raising the gas tax - pretty much the ONLY tax of which New Jersey doesn't have the highest rate in the nation - is exactly what working families who already can't afford this state need. Imagine paying $.50 more per gallon ON TOP of the highest property taxes in the nation, plus sky-high sales and income taxes? It would only make this state more expensive and less liveable for the middle class. It's amazing how people don't understand that a lot of folks out there do not HAVE any more money to spend on gas per week.

What we need to do is to CUT SPENDING. That means taking care of our highways without borrowing or raising taxes on the most-taxed state populace in America. They probably waste enough money ever week in the Newark school system to pave every state road with gold. Curtail spending on the urban political machine that sucks this state dry and we'll be fine. Until then... borrow... spend... tax.
I can't take seriously someone supporting Christie while also crying for the transportation plight of "working families who already can't afford this state". Where was this concern when he had NJT jack up their rates? As someone who both commutes by train and drives, I would have preferred a gas tax to the transit hikes. I still would be fine with a gas tax.

Who says it has to be $.50 a gallon? That's astronomical. 5 to 10 cents is easily affordable and would solve budget issues. Senator Sean Kean (a Republican) is even advocating a small gas tax increase. "Kean said that as little as a single-digit increase can help prevent funds from drying out, the report said. He said the state could take in $250 million a year via a five-cent increase in the 14.5-cent portion of the gasoline tax."

But oh yeah, fat man made a dumb promise not to raise the gas tax, so now he's faced with the dilemma of either proving himself a liar by breaking his vow or stubbornly refusing to break his promise even at the expense of what's best for NJ.

What we need to do is CUT BORROWING. Spending is fine when you have money and don't borrow to spend, but here Christie is looking to borrow 14 billion and then spend it. He is indeed a big, fat hypocrite and dummy.
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Old 07-08-2010, 05:28 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Default 1 B$ sounds anemic these days, miles of NJ interstates

'We have a serious number of bridges in the state that are structurally deficient, some of them pretty bad," said Zoe Baldwin, a spokeswoman for the Tri-State Transportation Campaign".

This is like going to the dentist every 6 months for years and finding you have a tooth so decayed, it has to be pulled. It begs the question, 'what the heck where you doing all this time' and 'what service was I paying for?"

The infrastructure/bridges didn't deteriorate overnight and generations of legislators relied on the these 'dedicated' funds for everything but the original intent.

Every tax or rise in taxes, is diagnostic and validates that the people entrusted with taxpayer money need to be replaced with people that can work within a budget and find new money through a review of inefficient process and practice.
New taxes mean no one is attempting to fix the hole in the hull of the good ship NJ.



"This year, $850 million of the $895 million devoted to transportation projects will be spent on debt...."

This is where your gas tax goes!!!!

To help you and legislator Cryan, understand, any word that precedes 'tax' is irrelevant, intentionally misleading and refers to the type of bait the pols are using to net more money from taxpayers. Like asking mom for lunch money and spending it on cigarettes.

The current gas tax rate is the flag we wave, that tells our legislators. 'don't tread on me'.... it is a sacred symbol, if it falls, all hope is lost.

You want to raise a tax, then ensure every tax has a sacred intent that cannot be diverted as well as an expiration date.

'Dedicated' is heretofore known as a red flag to the people of NJ. It warns that anyone who speaks the word 'tax' preceded by the word 'dedicated' shall be deemed a charlatan and unworthy of public office.

CC appears to the the best chance NJ has to affect a cure for chronic wasting disease. It is just a start and let's hope his eventual successor will follow suit and make more inroads into the diseased legislative and political NJ hinterlands.
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Old 07-08-2010, 05:41 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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To help you and legislator Cryan, understand, any word that precedes 'tax' is irrelevant, intentionally misleading and refers to the type of bait the pols are using to net more money from taxpayers.
You mean Senator Sean Kean.

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CC appears to the the best chance NJ has to affect a cure for chronic wasting disease. It is just a start and let's hope his eventual successor will follow suit and make more inroads into the diseased legislative and political NJ hinterlands.
If you believe that, I have a decayed bridge to sell you...and I'll throw in a White Castle Crave Case for your fat friend.

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Old 07-08-2010, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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Gov. Christie to borrow $1.4B to fund N.J. transportation projects | NJ.com

Ah , seems like Christie is a hypocrite. Borrowing form the feds, i thought Republicans were trying to cap spending..... Raise the Gas Tax Already.......and fund it permanently.........
As usual the liberal left Star ledger leaves out important details...this article says it's a refinance at lower interest rates... using the savings in interest to pay for road projects......horse of a different color:

NJ to refinance $1.4B in transportation bonds | dailyrecord.com | Daily Record
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Old 07-08-2010, 06:15 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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As usual the liberal left Star ledger leaves out important details...this article says it's a refinance at lower interest rates... using the savings in interest to pay for road projects......horse of a different color:

NJ to refinance $1.4B in transportation bonds | dailyrecord.com | Daily Record
I wonder how much that is going into Transit vs. Roads , this state needs faster and more Rail / Transit.
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Old 07-08-2010, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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I wonder how much that is going into Transit vs. Roads , this state needs faster and more Rail / Transit.
Nex..you're beating a dead horse as far as the rail/transit in this state except for PATH it's inefficient
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Old 07-08-2010, 06:24 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Nex..you're beating a dead horse as far as the rail/transit in this state except for PATH it's inefficient
I resent that , Depends on the line you use and if you an Express Train. The PATH is good and needs to be expanded. As The Regional Rail network is expanded Service should get better on some lines.
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