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First it was the major toll increases.
Then beer and added food taxes.
Then it was the gas tax increase making MA the highest in the nation.
Then it was the $2 added fee at Logan Airport.
Now it's an increase of Income tax and Sales tax.
This is all to cover a 4 BILLION dollar deficit that is expected by 2010.
When you liberals move to NH to escape the socialism and high cost of MA, NY, NJ, IL, and CA, DON'T continue to vote for big spending, big government liberals or else NH will be in the exact same boat.
Liberals are the reason why NH increase it's budget by 17.5% in ONE YEAR during the largest recession in the last 30 years... Wake up people and stop drinking the socialism koolaid.
This is why 2010 is so important. I feel that it will be the make or break for "Live free or Die" and fiscal conservatism. If not, NH will be just another state, with no uniqueness, no common sense, etc. Of course I thought people were going to return common sense to the state house in 2008, after the tax and spend spree from the 2006 election but I was wrong. Hopefully people will get it right in 2010.
It has been an amazing array of tax increases south of the border. If you were a young person graduating from college and were not from MA (family, friends, etc), why would one want to live there? High costs for housing, car insurance, etc. and taxes at every turn. Why not move to NC or some other state.....
It has been an amazing array of tax increases south of the border. If you were a young person graduating from college and were not from MA (family, friends, etc), why would one want to live there? High costs for housing, car insurance, etc. and taxes at every turn. Why not move to NC or some other state.....
NC has almost as many taxes as MA believe it or not, and we are projected to have a 3 BILLION dollar deficit this year as well...and so who did the people of NC vote for governor??? not the Republican, but the Democrat Lt. Governor that served under the outgoing Democrat Governor that gave us a bunch of taxes, - we now have a female Democrat Governor with her fake smile and her chicken last name - BEVERLY PERDUE. I should have never left NH!
Republican controlled (until 2006 in NH) state governments have a remarkable ability to hide actual state spending in off budget items. The 17% increase in this year's NH budget is to place these items into the budget where they may be debated. The actual spending has not changed but the accounting checkbox has. In fact if the 17% is removed the state budget has decreased under the Democrats.
When I moved to this area 24 years ago I was working in Lawrence, Mass. At that time I could not find a house, condo or rental I could afford in Mass. After some time in a Salem, NH apartment we found our current condominium in Londonderry, NH. I am working in downtown Boston. I still live in NH because I cannot afford the real estate prices in Massachusetts.
If Massachusetts is such a high tax state why are housing costs so high? I would think that low tax NH would have higher property values but it does not. I can afford a 15 cent increase in the gas tax because the price will still be less than half of the prices charged by the privately owned oil companies last summer. Massachusetts is in fiscal trouble because the major revenue is collected from a regressive and volatile sales tax. When spending drops so do revenues. Deficit is a result because a huge portion of state spending is to pay for Federal mandated programs.
NH should not institute a general sales tax. Our sales taxes on meals and rooms (incidentally charged for hospital stays) are a simple guest tax as is selling discount booze at state stores. (I have been amused by the “don’t drink and drive” signs near the entrance to the State liquor stores on I-93). We also, as you all know, have unreasonably high property taxes that are only loosely related to income. These excessive taxes have been known to force elderly property owners to sell their family farms to housing developers. This is not an accident as out legislature has been dominated by the real estate interests for decades.
As I believe in suggesting an alternative instead of just complaining I think the New Hampshire should institute a state wide income tax that would exclude anyone under four times the mean income with a large deductable. This income should be distributed to the towns as a per student aid to education to provide property tax relief. I would not support a general sales tax. I suggest that tobacco products only be sold in State liquor stores to increase state revenue and reduce tobacco use.
Republican controlled (until 2006 in NH) state governments have a remarkable ability to hide actual state spending in off budget items. The 17% increase in this year's NH budget is to place these items into the budget where they may be debated. The actual spending has not changed but the accounting checkbox has. In fact if the 17% is removed the state budget has decreased under the Democrats.
Utter BS. Not what my state rep tells me.
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Originally Posted by GregW
When I moved to this area 24 years ago I was working in Lawrence, Mass. At that time I could not find a house, condo or rental I could afford in Mass. After some time in a Salem, NH apartment we found our current condominium in Londonderry, NH. I am working in downtown Boston. I still live in NH because I cannot afford the real estate prices in Massachusetts.
Supply and DEMAND.
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Originally Posted by GregW
If Massachusetts is such a high tax state why are housing costs so high? I would think that low tax NH would have higher property values but it does not. I can afford a 15 cent increase in the gas tax because the price will still be less than half of the prices charged by the privately owned oil companies last summer. Massachusetts is in fiscal trouble because the major revenue is collected from a regressive and volatile sales tax. When spending drops so do revenues. Deficit is a result because a huge portion of state spending is to pay for Federal mandated programs.
Utter BS. MA has a STATE program for just about everything. Take a look at the State police payroll and pensions. Take a look at the legislators payroll and pensions. The STATE government is the reason MA is short on money.
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Originally Posted by GregW
NH should not institute a general sales tax. Our sales taxes on meals and rooms (incidentally charged for hospital stays) are a simple guest tax as is selling discount booze at state stores. (I have been amused by the “don’t drink and drive” signs near the entrance to the State liquor stores on I-93). We also, as you all know, have unreasonably high property taxes that are only loosely related to income. These excessive taxes have been known to force elderly property owners to sell their family farms to housing developers. This is not an accident as out legislature has been dominated by the real estate interests for decades.
Property taxes are directly related to the value of the home you are living in. Income level has never ever had an affect on property taxes. When you purchase a house it would be wise to see the mil rate for the town you are living in. It would be wise to look at the spending habits of the town. It would be wise to see if the teachers union working in that town are a bunch of money greedy thugs.
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Originally Posted by GregW
As I believe in suggesting an alternative instead of just complaining I think the New Hampshire should institute a state wide income tax that would exclude anyone under four times the mean income with a large deductable. This income should be distributed to the towns as a per student aid to education to provide property tax relief. I would not support a general sales tax. I suggest that tobacco products only be sold in State liquor stores to increase state revenue and reduce tobacco use.
Of course you would. No sales tax because EVERYBODY would pay their fair share. You DO support an INCOME TAX for those who make more and those who don't wouldn't pay. Yeah you're a typical democrat. Punish those who bust their butts to get where they are, and reward those who do nothing to better their way of life. Because they are ENTITLED right?????
Republican controlled (until 2006 in NH) state governments have a remarkable ability to hide actual state spending in off budget items. The 17% increase in this year's NH budget is to place these items into the budget where they may be debated. The actual spending has not changed but the accounting checkbox has. In fact if the 17% is removed the state budget has decreased under the Democrats.
When I moved to this area 24 years ago I was working in Lawrence, Mass. At that time I could not find a house, condo or rental I could afford in Mass. After some time in a Salem, NH apartment we found our current condominium in Londonderry, NH. I am working in downtown Boston. I still live in NH because I cannot afford the real estate prices in Massachusetts.
If Massachusetts is such a high tax state why are housing costs so high? I would think that low tax NH would have higher property values but it does not. I can afford a 15 cent increase in the gas tax because the price will still be less than half of the prices charged by the privately owned oil companies last summer. Massachusetts is in fiscal trouble because the major revenue is collected from a regressive and volatile sales tax. When spending drops so do revenues. Deficit is a result because a huge portion of state spending is to pay for Federal mandated programs.
NH should not institute a general sales tax. Our sales taxes on meals and rooms (incidentally charged for hospital stays) are a simple guest tax as is selling discount booze at state stores. (I have been amused by the “don’t drink and drive†signs near the entrance to the State liquor stores on I-93). We also, as you all know, have unreasonably high property taxes that are only loosely related to income. These excessive taxes have been known to force elderly property owners to sell their family farms to housing developers. This is not an accident as out legislature has been dominated by the real estate interests for decades.
As I believe in suggesting an alternative instead of just complaining I think the New Hampshire should institute a state wide income tax that would exclude anyone under four times the mean income with a large deductable. This income should be distributed to the towns as a per student aid to education to provide property tax relief. I would not support a general sales tax. I suggest that tobacco products only be sold in State liquor stores to increase state revenue and reduce tobacco use.
You have never once backed up with ANY facts your story about this 17.5 % Democrat budget increase. You might think that if you keep doing this people are going to believe it, or let it go, but we are not. It's not ethical IMO to come on this board and keep doing this. It shows such a "smallness". It really is a waste of everyone's time to keep correcting you on this, and it shows a basic lack of respect for the board as a whole when someone keeps posting fiction as fact month after month after month. In most cases you are a decent enough poster who engages debate in a civil manner, which I respect, but on this issue you are just being disrespectful to the process out here. Boards like this work better when people bring honest opinions to it, or at least try and be honest.
Republican controlled (until 2006 in NH) state governments have a remarkable ability to hide actual state spending in off budget items. The 17% increase in this year's NH budget is to place these items into the budget where they may be debated. The actual spending has not changed but the accounting checkbox has. In fact if the 17% is removed the state budget has decreased under the Democrats.
Absolute crap. Pure horse$#t. GregW has posted this before and has been asked for some evidence. All he has provided has been "a politician told me". Post a link to some proof or ****. The Dems are going to pay in 2010 for the budget increase and other mistakes...
As I believe in suggesting an alternative instead of just complaining I think the New Hampshire should institute a state wide income tax that would exclude anyone under four times the mean income with a large deductable.
Sure. GregW works in MA so an income tax means nothing to him. If he wants to live in a state with an income tax, there are many to choose from... Move back to Massachusetts.
Last edited by CaseyB; 03-11-2009 at 06:16 PM..
Reason: Please don't bait him, okay?
You have never once backed up with ANY facts your story about this 17.5 % Democrat budget increase. You might think that if you keep doing this people are going to believe it, or let it go, but we are not. It's not ethical IMO to come on this board and keep doing this. It shows such a "smallness". It really is a waste of everyone's time to keep correcting you on this, and it shows a basic lack of respect for the board as a whole when someone keeps posting fiction as fact month after month after month. In most cases you are a decent enough poster who engages debate in a civil manner, which I respect, but on this issue you are just being disrespectful to the process out here. Boards like this work better when people bring honest opinions to it, or at least try and be honest.
Well, let's see your facts proving otherwise, please.
Last edited by CaseyB; 03-11-2009 at 06:17 PM..
Reason: Cut it out.
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