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View Poll Results: Which culture shock is the greatest?
Montreal-Minneapolis 13 68.42%
Montreal-rural Quebec 6 31.58%
Both the same 0 0%
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Old 07-25-2015, 05:17 PM
 
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As I said earlier, the only similarities will be on a physical level.

Which city has the better-educated residents?

Sometimes I have the impression that illiteracy rates among Montreal residents are a little high (but that could be more a function of Montreal's aging population)...
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Old 07-27-2015, 04:01 PM
 
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As I said earlier, the only similarities will be on a physical level.

Which city has the better-educated residents?

Sometimes I have the impression that illiteracy rates among Montreal residents are a little high (but that could be more a function of Montreal's aging population)...
Cross-sectional differences within each city are a lot more important than differences in averages between cities. In MSP you'll be living in a grad student/scientist world, the proportion of MSP residents that are actually well-educated will be largely irrelevant (that's even assuming you can get a proxy for 'well-educated').

A friend of mine and I actually discussed this over lunch today -- Montreal vs. Boston. Montreal has the sophisticated European stereotype going while Boston has the blue collar/Irish fireman theme going, yet large swaths of MTL can only be described as working-class while Boston has a crazy concentration of universities and research centers. I don't think the 'average' level of education of the city's residents have much to do with how anyone actually feels.
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Old 07-27-2015, 06:33 PM
 
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Didnt mean to imply all Minnesotans are RWNJs but they are definitely there and our op will get to meet some of them.
https://www.google.ca/#safe=active&q...twing+Nut+jobs
If my information is correct, RWNJs in Quebec are mostly concentrated in the "radios-poubelles" of Quebec City, with Duhaime et al anchoring the political aspect, even though these "radios-poubelles" are musically decent.

La Presse is a federalist den but at least they show more balance between left and right as defined in a Quebec context (i.e. mostly in economic terms)
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Old 07-28-2015, 01:16 AM
 
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If my information is correct, RWNJs in Quebec are mostly concentrated in the "radios-poubelles" of Quebec City, with Duhaime et al anchoring the political aspect, even though these "radios-poubelles" are musically decent.

La Presse is a federalist den but at least they show more balance between left and right as defined in a Quebec context (i.e. mostly in economic terms)
While there maybe some RWNJ shows in Quebec the American airwaves set the bench mark for such programming, tune into a Mark Levin show or an Alex Jones show and let the hate venom and vitriol rain down.
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Old 07-28-2015, 10:02 PM
 
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While there maybe some RWNJ shows in Quebec the American airwaves set the bench mark for such programming, tune into a Mark Levin show or an Alex Jones show and let the hate venom and vitriol rain down.
Many American RWNJs with shows of their own are highly religious. Duhaime and other Quebec RWNJs may still be vitriolic but they are not as religious.

In Quebec, religion is discussed mostly between people who had actual education in religious studies or theology until, for some reason, religious practices cause backlash. And even when they do cause some backlash, they usually do not cause prolonged backlash. Politics on the other hand, is discussed much more as long as the agenda is kept to non-religious issues.

Someone said that Minnesotans mostly kept quiet about politics until the executive at either state or federal levels are up for grabs. But even they, too, mostly keep quiet about religion.
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Old 07-28-2015, 10:14 PM
 
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The culture shock from moving from Montreal to MSP will be similar to that of moving from Montreal to Edmonton.
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Old 07-29-2015, 08:08 AM
 
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The culture shock from moving from Montreal to MSP will be similar to that of moving from Montreal to Edmonton.
I knew Edmonton was more conservative than Montreal, but Winnipeg is often cited as the closest Canadian comparable (except perhaps for crime) to MSP.
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Old 07-29-2015, 08:59 AM
 
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Winnipeg looks a lot like parts of Minneapolis. However, Minneapolis has a lot more going on than Winnipeg, in general. And it has a giant mall.
The Twin Cities are not very conservative. I didn't read the whole thread but that sounds like bad info if people are making that claim. Even the conservative parts that exist, in the suburbs... you would never run into.
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:03 AM
 
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Winnipeg looks a lot like parts of Minneapolis. However, Minneapolis has a lot more going on than Winnipeg, in general. And it has a giant mall.
The Twin Cities are not very conservative. I didn't read the whole thread but that sounds like bad info if people are making that claim. Even the conservative parts that exist, in the suburbs... you would never run into.
Whether Minneapolis could be considered conservative depends on your comparison standpoint. The Twin Cities may not be very conservative relative to other US cities with major research universities, but compared to Montreal, for a graduate of a French-language university in a pure science (pure science graduates are usually pretty liberal, although not as much as humanities graduates), Minneapolis will feel conservative.

The two most conservative universities in Montreal are English-language...
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:25 AM
 
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Whether Minneapolis could be considered conservative depends on your comparison standpoint. The Twin Cities may not be very conservative relative to other US cities with major research universities, but compared to Montreal, for a graduate of a French-language university in a pure science (pure science graduates are usually pretty liberal, although not as much as humanities graduates), Minneapolis will feel conservative.

The two most conservative universities in Montreal are English-language...
I strongly disagree. The french are leftists, but they are a very conservative culture. The quebecois embody this seeming contradiction even more so. There is not much that is conservative about Minneapolis proper. Minnesotans consider it impolite to discuss religion and politics in social settings, so it may seem conservative, but it is not.
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