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View Poll Results: Which culture shock is the greatest?
Montreal-Minneapolis 13 68.42%
Montreal-rural Quebec 6 31.58%
Both the same 0 0%
Voters: 19. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-23-2015, 02:56 PM
 
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It is but they still exist, Minnesota will still come off as a pretty conservative place for Canadian standards. however they don't go around spouting their beliefs and there are not guns everywhere and anti gun beliefs are totally fine here, Jambo likes to mistake the P&oC thread to everyday American life every once in awhile.
And even Canadian political standards aren't uniform. By Prairie standards Minnesota will be neither liberal nor conservative, but by BC Lower Mainland and Quebec urban standards it will be conservative.
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Old 07-23-2015, 07:32 PM
 
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It is but they still exist, Minnesota will still come off as a pretty conservative place for Canadian standards. however they don't go around spouting their beliefs and there are not guns everywhere and anti gun beliefs are totally fine here, Jambo likes to mistake the P&oC thread to everyday American life every once in awhile.

Actually the P&C section is tame by comparison.
Do 100,000 people get shot every year in U.S.? Facebook post says yes | PolitiFact
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Old 07-24-2015, 07:22 AM
 
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I understand that urban Minnesota isn't the most gun-obsessed place in the US but I must not engage in gun-control debates.

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You will have to ultimately tell us what the cultural differences are between Montreal and MSP as theres probably few of us intimately familiar with both cities, my only experience in the area was a trip to Mall of America, most of my Experiences of USA are coming from Florida where Politics/Guns and race play a very big part in social interactions where racism is alive and well, every one has a gun and people are so obsessed with whether you are rightwing or leftwing they will even choose where they live depending on if its a red area or a blue area.
Some of the media you will have if you so choose is various FOX type networks that spout nothing but negativity toward President/Democrats and various issues, AM talk radio takes it a step further with rightwing hate merchants like Limbaugh/Jones/Levine/Beck
What bearing do socioeconomic status have as to whether an area is red or blue?

One would expect the color of an area to correlate to socioeconomic status...
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Old 07-24-2015, 08:58 AM
 
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I have no idea what makes areas republican or democrat. although this article may shed some light on the issue=
The Color Of Politics: How Did Red And Blue States Come To Be? : NPR
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Old 07-24-2015, 03:05 PM
 
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Is this a real question? It takes some strong kool-aid to convince yourself that Montreal has more in common with a random city in middle America than elsewhere in Quebec.
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Old 07-24-2015, 03:09 PM
 
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I have no idea what makes areas republican or democrat. although this article may shed some light on the issue=
The Color Of Politics: How Did Red And Blue States Come To Be? : NPR
The thing about you jambo is that you complain about politically charged people in the States, yet here you are almost daily trying to present extreme cases in Quebec and presenting them as routine. If your posts aren't politically charged I don't know what is. How many posts have you made about the supposed extermination of anglos in Quebec? The statistics show small growth in the anglophone population, but of course that doesn't fit your pot stirring narrative!

In essence, people who don't care about politics don't get mad about politics because it isn't part of their reality.
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Old 07-24-2015, 03:44 PM
 
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Is this a real question? It takes some strong kool-aid to convince yourself that Montreal has more in common with a random city in middle America than elsewhere in Quebec.
And equal fluency in both English and French, with a fluency level in these languages that is sufficient to be functional in both. Obviously if one has an evident discrepancy in one vs the other, it will affect how the differences are perceived.

But you also know that, as much as there are city-to-city differences, there is also urban Quebec vs. rural Quebec differences as well.
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Old 07-25-2015, 03:53 AM
 
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The thing about you jambo is that you complain about politically charged people in the States, yet here you are almost daily trying to present extreme cases in Quebec and presenting them as routine. If your posts aren't politically charged I don't know what is. How many posts have you made about the supposed extermination of anglos in Quebec? The statistics show small growth in the anglophone population, but of course that doesn't fit your pot stirring narrative!

In essence, people who don't care about politics don't get mad about politics because it isn't part of their reality.
Small growth in the Anglophone demographic? with what little is left of that Anglo demographic in Quebec 6 births could represent a major rise in the Anglo demographic.
As for talking politics? would you prefer we talk about the weather?or should we just talk about how great the francophone culture is and how horrible those dastardly Anglos are?
Complaining about politically charged people in the States?theres a lot to complain about.Gun violence/racism/wars and the potential there of,the divide between left and right and by default the American political situation gives much fodder for discussion.
Quebec linguistic situation? i cant believe you dont see the Quebec governments crusade to eliminate English in Quebec.Perhaps if all these draconian linguistic rules and regulations were aimed at you instead of me you might have a different take on the matter.
Then theres the almost daily routine of having to deal with francophones with your attitude PB,Is it any wonder i may come off as somewhat of an Angryphone.
Stirring the pot? you seem to be the epitome of the term pot stirrer..

Also keeping the post on the topic of cultural differences, as you seem to think Quebec is in no way similar to the USA and in some way has a superior culture while claiming Anglos have no culture, taking the obvious linguistic aspect out of the equation what are these differences you speak of that make Quebec not just a French speaking version of anyplace USA/Canada?

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Old 07-25-2015, 07:49 AM
 
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Yup. As I said, there isn't a single European look and not all of Europe is fairy tale castles.
Fairy-tale-castle Europe is more commonly associated with rural or small-town Western Europe... yet what European sceneries Montreal is most similar to are urban looks.

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Also keeping the post on the topic of cultural differences, as you seem to think Quebec is in no way similar to the USA and in some way has a superior culture while claiming Anglos have no culture, taking the obvious linguistic aspect out of the equation what are these differences you speak of that make Quebec not just a French speaking version of anyplace USA/Canada?
But is PB one of those who are fluent in both English and French? That's the kind of people for whom it makes sense to take out the linguistic aspect.
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Old 07-25-2015, 08:21 AM
 
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Fairy-tale-castle Europe is more commonly associated with rural or small-town Western Europe... yet what European sceneries Montreal is most similar to are urban looks.



But is PB one of those who are fluent in both English and French? That's the kind of people for whom it makes sense to take out the linguistic aspect.
PB is obviously fluently bilingual and oddly sees no Americanization of Quebec.
Leaving the linguistics in the equation will result in an obvious culture shock once you move to MSP as everything will be in English,French will be non existent however a Walmart etc will still be a Walmart,fast food joints will still be the same, a Ford pick-up will still be a Ford pickup,Not sure what media sources you use for entertainment but music/news/tv programming and video games will still be the same,
Culture shock? As said before you are going to have to tell us once you get there but IMO you wont notice much on a physical level, where you might notice a difference is Americas obsession with politics,the level of violence,racism.
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