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AJ you ever think that the Anglophone culture in Quebec is every bit as proud and patriotic about their culture as Francophones are of theirs, you ever think from the Anglo perspective its rather rude,insulting and intolerant to have some one come along and tell you you cant post your language anywhere it can be seen,you cant speak your language at the work place, many of the towns and streets that used to be English names have now been renamed French,all the while watching a separatist government trying its best to rid Quebec of the Anglo culture and presence entirely, along with an entire enforcement arm of the government called the OQLF (read language police) that make sure you comply with all these anti English laws right down to the minutia of saying words like Pasta.
AJ in todays day and age theres nothing even remotely similar being perpetrated on the French culture in the ROC or anywhere else in the world.
That last line shows precisely the gross lack of perspective that has cost the Anglo-Quebec community a lot of its "natural" support outside of Quebec and even outside Canada in recent decades.
It's the type of debate where the language on store signs is shamelessly equated with violent genocide and cholera-infested refugee camps.
That last line shows precisely the gross lack of perspective that has cost the Anglo-Quebec community a lot of its "natural" support outside of Quebec and even outside Canada in recent decades.
It's the type of debate where the language on store signs is shamelessly equated with violent genocide and cholera-infested refugee camps.
I was saying that his commments about "nothing similar in the world being perpetrated" (obviously insinuating an unequalled level of gravity) is typical of the hyperbole often used by some Anglo-Quebecers, and where the debate often goes.
I was saying that his commments about "nothing similar in the world being perpetrated" (obviously insinuating an unequalled level of gravity) is typical of the hyperbole often used by some Anglo-Quebecers, and where the debate often goes.
I wasnt looking at it as hyperbole i was looking at it as fact.
I would have thought with your constantly telling us how the French were oppressed by the Anglo oppressors to the point of a riding in the back of the bus mentality youd more understand how Anglos feel about the Quebec government doing everything it can to eliminate their entire demographic from Quebec,
AJ i;m sure you can tell us all about the injustices that have been perpetrated on the Francophone in the past but do we really need to keep a score card mentality in this day and age with the idea the English did this or that to the French back in 1812 so we are justified in returning the favor to the English in 2013?.
From my Anglo perspective Quebec is mostly all French , you;ve won,Quebec is all yours with a handfull of minorities scattered here and there mostly relegated to the Montreal area.,further bashing of Anglos and minorities will not incur prosperity as less and less people want to stay here or come here, rather than prop up your culture by eliminating all others it would be a wiser move to loudly praise the Quebec Culture/mosaic for all its positives and accomplishments and embrace all comers, we can start by trashing Bill101..
.,further bashing of Anglos and minorities will not incur prosperity as less and less people want to stay here or come here, rather than prop up your culture by eliminating all others it would be a wiser move to loudly praise the Quebec Culture/mosaic for all its positives and accomplishments and embrace all comers, we can start by trashing Bill101..
Not everyone views things through the Anglo-Quebecers' rights prism.
Quebec at the moment gets more immigrants in total numbers than any other province except Ontario.
Relative to population, Quebec takes in more immigrants that the good old United States of America.
In an average year, Quebec takes in more immigrants in sheer numbers than most US states with a comparable or slightly higher population (VA, PA, OH, MI, IL, GA, NC). It also takes in as many immigrants as New York, which has double Quebec's population (just under 50,000 for each).
Still relative to population, Quebec takes in more immigrants than the immigrant boom states of CA, FL and TX.
While some subgroups like anglophones and English-oriented immigrants (especially those who don't know any French) have high departure rates, overall Quebec holds onto its population in a higher proportion than any other Canadian province.
Bill 101 has done it's job ensuring the survival of French, however there are many aspects to it that should be eliminated (like forcing people to use French software) or the over-zealousness of the "language police".
I was saying that his commments about "nothing similar in the world being perpetrated" (obviously insinuating an unequalled level of gravity) is typical of the hyperbole often used by some Anglo-Quebecers, and where the debate often goes.
And of course it could never be said that the strident emoting of "the Anglais are attacking our culture" (with the characteristic shaking of jowl, Parizeau type of bombasity) has never been uttered by anyone within Quebec to describe some happenstance of purely evolutionary nature either inside Quebec or the ROC.
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