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Old 06-04-2013, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Montreal > Quebec > Canada
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So you're implying that Quebec is a francophone province where the lingua franca must be french
Like it or not, you summed it up quite well; that's exactly what it is.

Just like Ontario is an anglophone province where the lingua franca must be (well, is) English.

If you don't know this already I'll assume that you probably have never been to Quebec and got too much of your "knowledge" about it from Sun Media...
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Old 06-04-2013, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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The foreigner wasn't critical of Quebec's language regime. The tourist was saying we should embrace it because he wants to feel like he's in Europe.
That was exactly my point: if he had criticized Quebec's language régime people would have said ''hear! hear!''.
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Old 06-04-2013, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Montreal > Quebec > Canada
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it is still all right to deny them the right to school their children in one of the languages that Quebec was built in.
No one in Quebec ever suggested to restrict the rights of anglophones to have their own school system. You are clearly misinformed.
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:02 PM
pdw
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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So an immigrant kid from Jamaica or the UK (anglophones) should be forced into a French school?
Go to Vigile.net. This is an English forum. If you hate us so much why do you come here?
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Montreal > Quebec > Canada
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So an immigrant kid from Jamaica or the UK (anglophones) should be forced into a French school?
Go to Vigile.net. This is an English forum. If you hate us so much why do you come here?
Very welcoming attitude you got there. The only hatred I see here is pretty much one way.

You shoot in your own net, pal. It's because of this kind of attitude that the PQ exists in the first place.
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Germany 2014
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I don't know which city you're from, OP, but I want it to become completely Spanish-speaking, because when I visit, I want to feel like I'm in charming Barcelona. I want all the street signs, menus, signage and services to be in Spanish only.
You OK with that?
Not the same thing. There is nowhere in the US where a state has majority Spanish speakers, and neither is our country a bilingual.
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:16 PM
pdw
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Very welcoming attitude you got there.
So it's welcoming to force immigrant anglophone children into francophone schools while they're paying taxes to an education system that is set up to assimilate their culture?
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Germany 2014
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One thing that is being lost in the discussion is that French in Montreal and Quebec is not ''analogous'' to Spanish in American cities. Or Pennsylvania Dutch or Arabic in Dearborn.


French in Quebec is equivalent to English in the United States.

Although English has been around for a long time, it's still the ''late-comer" when compared to French here.

So comparing French signs in Montreal to Spanish signs in Miami (which BTW was very predominantly anglo until only 40 or 50 years ago) is a fallacy.
Exactly. In Miami I am always greeted in English rather than Spanish even though I look Hispanic. Miami is not that much Spanish as you may think.
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:19 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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Not the same thing. There is nowhere in the US where a state has majority Spanish speakers, and neither is our country a bilingual.
Great logic you have there: A bilingual country should have one of the most radically unilingual governments in the world as one of its subdivisions.
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Germany 2014
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You see alot of English signs in France.
No you do not except the stop sign which is universal for Europe. In Quebec unfortunately there are many English signs as well.
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