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Old 02-23-2010, 04:17 AM
 
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You know, Krock1dk, I just don't understand you. I have read your myriad posts on the Phoenix forum about how much you hate it there and how you can't wait to return to the Midwest, so I figured okay, just another Midwesterner who relocated to AZ, hated it, and wants to go home, I've seen that a hundred times, no big deal. But now you're over here saying how much you hate northern MI and the Detroit area too. I know that you are moving to Wisconsin soon. Is Wisconsin like a little piece of sunshine in an otherwise terrible country or something, and is it really all that different from MI? Or when you get to Wisconsin, are you going to get on their forums and gripe too? Nothing personal, I am just perplexed by all this.

I truly hope that you find happiness, but I'm starting to wonder where, if anywhere, you could.

Good luck!
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Old 02-23-2010, 05:26 AM
 
Location: In God's country
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Not that my two cents is worth anything, and since i've only lived in Michigan a little over a year now...but come on this going back and forth and degrading one another is making all of us look like "butts"
Here is simple math..
1. if you dont like michigan and you have the means to move...then move. Hope you like it better wherever your going to.
2. if you lived in michigan hated it and moved...great for you but that doesnt mean you have to bash those still here and that like michigan.
3. Why is it that you feel the need to get personal and bash others. If someone says something you dont agree with, and you can not come back with a reply other than rudeness, arogance, and down right ignorance, why bother?

Again, i am one that moved to michigan, and things could be going a whole lot better, but for now, we take the good with the bad..it's called life. I dont know statistics or your so called facts, and frankly i dont care....so for those who are not happy, im sorry that you feel that way, and i wish there was some way you could find that happiness.
just my useless two cents.
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Old 02-23-2010, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Huntington Woods, MI
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do I have sources that 2+2 = 4?? check out the census. detroit shrinking is something everyone knows. but it seems the only one who doesnt know it is YOU.

Chicago, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Minneapolis, Baltimore, St Louis, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Washington DC are just a handful of examples of cities that lost population in the same time frame. It's a natural prgression of society moving towards the suburbs. I honestly have no idea what Detroit's population has to do with jobs in norther Michigan.

I love how this thread went. I said something about northern Michigan's economy. It's pretty accurate but since northern Michigan is sacred around these parts, no one wanted to hear it. Instead they till me I'm not skilled and probably asking for handouts. Next they attack Detroit simply because I also live there. What I haven't seen, is anything contrary to my point about northern Michigan having any sort of jobs that offer livable salaries.
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Old 02-23-2010, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Loving life in Gaylord!
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Chicago, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Minneapolis, Baltimore, St Louis, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Washington DC are just a handful of examples of cities that lost population in the same time frame. It's a natural prgression of society moving towards the suburbs. I honestly have no idea what Detroit's population has to do with jobs in norther Michigan.

I love how this thread went. I said something about northern Michigan's economy. It's pretty accurate but since northern Michigan is sacred around these parts, no one wanted to hear it. Instead they till me I'm not skilled and probably asking for handouts. Next they attack Detroit simply because I also live there. What I haven't seen, is anything contrary to my point about northern Michigan having any sort of jobs that offer livable salaries.
Ok, Northern Michigan has no jobs, nobody can make any kind of living, and some people hate it with every ounce of their being. But its still awesome, sacred, and thousands of people still want to live there and love living there. Me included!
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Old 02-23-2010, 09:25 AM
 
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yet there are many still making it...its called "living within your means" and its also saying that you dont need all the materialistic things. (im not pointing the finger...im using "you" as a figure of speech)
Would you (anyone) be happy giving up all those toys and living where you love...?
geez..this thread is going nowhere.
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Old 02-23-2010, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Northwestern Michigan
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HAHA! You'd be amazed with how many Up-North residents have "toys" worth more then their homes.


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yet there are many still making it...its called "living within your means" and its also saying that you dont need all the materialistic things. (im not pointing the finger...im using "you" as a figure of speech)
Would you (anyone) be happy giving up all those toys and living where you love...?
geez..this thread is going nowhere.
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Old 02-23-2010, 12:51 PM
 
Location: In God's country
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i know...i live here.
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Old 02-23-2010, 02:45 PM
 
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You know, Krock1dk, I just don't understand you. I have read your myriad posts on the Phoenix forum about how much you hate it there and how you can't wait to return to the Midwest, so I figured okay, just another Midwesterner who relocated to AZ, hated it, and wants to go home, I've seen that a hundred times, no big deal. But now you're over here saying how much you hate northern MI and the Detroit area too. I know that you are moving to Wisconsin soon. Is Wisconsin like a little piece of sunshine in an otherwise terrible country or something, and is it really all that different from MI? Or when you get to Wisconsin, are you going to get on their forums and gripe too? Nothing personal, I am just perplexed by all this.

I truly hope that you find happiness, but I'm starting to wonder where, if anywhere, you could.

Good luck!
No, I dont hate it everywhere I go (I liked Indiana and the northern VA suburbs of Washington DC). My beaf with northern MI is the extremely scant number of jobs available, the 'backwards' culture, slow pace of life and rural atmosphere. I am not speaking for everyone, just most people in my age bravcket (upper 20s). Most people I graduated high school with would agree with me, as almost all have moved out to escape to the cities for its ammenities and wanting a career. There is nothing wrong with that. Many people I knew would just drink, do drugs and party to keep away the boredom. But MOST of the people who DO like northern MI are the GM retirees and the like who move there to escape the city life. Nothing wrong with that either.

Although Wisconsin and Michigan are alike in many ways, Wisconsin is much more 'progressive'. Yes, I am a Midwesterner who came to AZ and didnt like it. But I came here not by choice, but by circumstance. I have lots of fam in Wisconsin and am looking FWD to the change.
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Old 02-23-2010, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Huntington Woods, MI
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Since no one wants to talk about the economy, I just got back from Sault Sainte Marie and I all of the sudden feel Gaylurd isn't so bad after all.
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Old 02-23-2010, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Home!
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do I have sources that 2+2 = 4?? check out the census. detroit shrinking is something everyone knows. but it seems the only one who doesnt know it is YOU.
I don't know it because I ask for sources??? I SAID I was just interested in seeing the facts...geesh...don't get yourself all in a bunch.

Sorry, but I LIVE in SE MI-have all my life-grew up a couple blks from Detroit...so I think I DO know what it is looking like there...just wanted to see the numbers...and BTW, Detroit is not shrinking, the population may be though...
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