Racist attack in Quincy (Boston: house, vinyl siding, property)

[newenglandgal123]

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

Apart from this being racist...

In my experience, many Asians in urban areas like Dorchester, Quincy, and Malden simply pave over their postage stamp-size yards. There is nothing to maintain.

How is my observation that many Asians don't maintain their properties racist? I've had multiple family members who have owned homes in Quincy with yards that were kept in pristine condition and they sold their homes to Asians...now the properties look like sh*t. I also happen to have an Asian neighbor who doesn't rake and lets vegetation grow out of control...their property also looks like sh*t. Maybe it is a cultural thing, where they don't place any value on maintenance and a home is simply a place to live, not to beautify/keep neat tidy..... I don't know but if you've spent any time in Quincy or other areas with Asian population you might observe the same thing. This is not racist, it is simply an observation.

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by msRB311

Go to Hyde Park. There's no asian people and the majority of the homes are a mess.

This isn't rocket science though. If you're living in a neighborhood like Hyde Park or Quincy perhaps you don't have the extra money to make your house look nice? If there's literally trash around it then that's just laziness but housing repairs and making a house look nice cost MONEY. Most people are already paying a good amount of money to live in these places, probably have kids and other bills so yeah a house looking nice is last on the list. If you want people who have beautiful looking up kept homes I would say go to a more affluent area.

Hyde Park looks fine for the most part. 15% of omes are disheveled but it's not at all how you're portraying it to be, same with Quincy.

These arent poor communities.

I just dropped to a random street near new mission and by strokeof luck i get an image of a woman tending her garden. Is this "the majority of homes are a mess"?

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2629...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2566...7i13312!8i6656

How can this be?

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by newenglandgal123

How is my observation that many Asians don't maintain their properties racist? I've had multiple family members who have owned homes in Quincy with yards that were kept in pristine condition and they sold their homes to Asians...now the properties look like sh*t. I also happen to have an Asian neighbor who doesn't rake and lets vegetation grow out of control...their property also looks like sh*t. Maybe it is a cultural thing, where they don't place any value on maintenance and a home is simply a place to live, not to beautify/keep neat tidy..... I don't know but if you've spent any time in Quincy or other areas with Asian population you might observe the same thing. This is not racist, it is simply an observation.

I used to work at O'Sullivan Flooring on Sagamore Street near the North Quincy stop summer of 2014.

Have a cousin on Water Street.

GF used to work at Target there and I'd pick her up.

Dad used to take me to New England Comics in Downtown.

Had to give a ride to an Indian classmate who lived in Quincy once.

Shopped at the Walmart in Quincy.

I've been there many more times.

Quincy is fine.

Spend much time in Field Corner when I lived in Shawmut section of Dorchester. That was a bit more disheveled but .... it's Dorchester and low-income. And those homes and apartments were super tight.

Malden near 39 Garden Street was heavily Asian and not all disheveled. Stayed with my HS buddy at his apartment there for 10/12 days a few years ago before I moved to DC. That's where I saw the morning routines of tai chi and whatnot. Pretty tidy.

[msRB311]

Ok, those are two streets and not what I would say are examples of good looking neighborhoods. They look clean so there's at least that.

HP is pretty low income

FWIW most Asian people I know are into gardening and their homes look nice.

[newenglandgal123]

Originally Posted by pennyone

Have you seen some homes of folks of Italian descent???? LOL How about houses own by white people who have a flock of plastic pink flamingos in the front yard? Or a house with a junk car/truck as front yard decoration?

I'd be interested in hearing what the homes of folks of Italian descent do? Usually they're type A with their grass and yes, they may have some ornate/gaudy garden statues/ornamentals. I'll take that any day over and unkempt, brush filled, overgrown jungle.

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by msRB311

Ok, those are two streets and not what I would say are examples of good looking neighborhoods. They look clean so there's at least that.

HP is pretty low income

FWIW most Asian people I know are into gardening and their homes look nice.

They look fine. Whats the issue? The second street view especially.

HP isn't low-income. Household Median income is around 90k. And that's for all households, not families. 7% poverty. In fact, I have data from another thread on black media households and family income in Hyde Park, iirc its ~104k for black families. likely higher for whites.

You could make somewhat of an argument that HP has more 2-3 adult earner households and per capita, isnt that impressive? I don't have the data for that off the top of my head.

[msRB311]

I've seen Italians and Irish have a statue of Mary in the front yard but those have become pretty dated. Rarely do I see them anymore.

[msRB311]

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

They look fine. Whats the issue? The second street view especially.

HP isn't low-income. Household Median income is around 90k. And that's for all households, not families. 7% poverty. In fact, I have data from another thread on black media households and family income in Hyde Park, iirc its ~104k for black families. likely higher for whites.

You could make somewhat of an argument that HP has more 2-3 adult earner households and per capita, isnt that impressive? I don't have the data for that off the top of my head.

Drive through an HP neighborhood, then drive through a West Rox neighborhood. There's a pretty big difference in what the homes/yards look like to me. HP just has ugly homes. Lots of vinyl siding and awnings, capes, ranches. Just homes that would be torn done in other places but are still there. It is what it is. I have a family member who lives in HP, HHI is over 250k but their house is kind of ugly. As long as they're happy who cares.

[massnative71]

This should serve as a warning for all folks to not keep an untidy yard, some angry demented dude might try to run you over. Or somebody else of your ethnicity.

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by msRB311

Drive through an HP neighborhood, then drive through a West Rox neighborhood. There's a pretty big difference in what the homes/yards look like to me. HP just has ugly homes. Lots of vinyl siding and awnings, capes, ranches. Just homes that would be torn done in other places but are still there. It is what it is. I have a family member who lives in HP, HHI is over 250k but their house is kind of ugly. As long as they're happy who cares.

Well now you're talking about builds and layout..West Roxbury is built out as a more uniform and traditional suburbia the only urban-ish part along the Wahsington Street Corridor near HP and Dedham is relatively ugly.

You have a lot more streets like this in West Roxbury

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2897...7i16384!8i8192

than in Hyde Park. They're not a perfect apples-to-apples comparison. In areas where HP has large homes built out like that its very beautiful. But those are rare houses in Hyde Park that are closer to the street and imo the sidewalks and streets are not as well maintained as West Roxbury which really does fall on the city. I suspect people in WR are more likely to advocate for high levels of maintenance.

This is what Hyde Park can look like when it really gets suburban.. https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2411...7i16384!8i8192