Most North “hood” in the northeast (Boston, Worcester: home, buying)

[Space_League]

Originally Posted by masssachoicetts

I think Rochester counts. Id agree Rochester is probably top 5 worst in the NE

My top 5 would go
1) Newburgh NY
2) Camden NJ
3) Central/North Rochester NY
4) Chester PA/Some parts of Lower PHL
5) A tie between Newark NJ, parts of Buffalo NY, parts of North End Hartford CT, and Lawrence MA.

However, I don't think Ive ever felt more unsafew then I did around PHL in Chester and parts of the outer areas of the city of Philadelphia.

Rochester is just very far north. It's further north than anyplace in MA or any other major NY city.

If you're putting PA and NJ in the mix (Which I don't consider NE at all), then Rochester shouldn't crack the top 5. Putting Rochester above Philly hoods or Chester PA doesn't feel right to me. I can't take that seriously. I would put Buffalo above Rochester too, even though it's maybe a better more lively city overall it's still higher crime and more blighted by far.

Lawrence doesn't really belong anywhere on a top 5, especially when you're throwing in NJ and PA hoods. There are some jarring streetscapes and a sophisticated drug market there, but it's just not as violent anymore compared to hoods across the country. The drug trade in northernNE is pretty much locked down. Way more people are dying from the drugs themselves than from 'turf wars' in Lawrence. It's been that way for at least a decade

[mdovell]

Originally Posted by Space_League

Rochester is just very far north. It's further north than anyplace in MA or any other major NY city.

If you're putting PA and NJ in the mix (Which I don't consider NE at all), then Rochester shouldn't crack the top 5. Putting Rochester above Philly hoods or Chester PA doesn't feel right to me. I can't take that seriously. I would put Buffalo above Rochester too, even though it's maybe a better more lively city overall it's still higher crime and more blighted by far.

Lawrence doesn't really belong anywhere on a top 5, especially when you're throwing in NJ and PA hoods. There are some jarring streetscapes and a sophisticated drug market there, but it's just not as violent anymore compared to hoods across the country. The drug trade in northernNE is pretty much locked down. Way more people are dying from the drugs themselves than from 'turf wars' in Lawrence. It's been that way for at least a decade

eh...are we looking at entire cities or neighborhoods. Methodone mile isn't looking good by any measure these days.

[masssachoicetts]

Originally Posted by Space_League

Rochester is just very far north. It's further north than anyplace in MA or any other major NY city.

If you're putting PA and NJ in the mix (Which I don't consider NE at all), then Rochester shouldn't crack the top 5. Putting Rochester above Philly hoods or Chester PA doesn't feel right to me. I can't take that seriously. I would put Buffalo above Rochester too, even though it's maybe a better more lively city overall it's still higher crime and more blighted by far.

Lawrence doesn't really belong anywhere on a top 5, especially when you're throwing in NJ and PA hoods. There are some jarring streetscapes and a sophisticated drug market there, but it's just not as violent anymore compared to hoods across the country. The drug trade in northernNE is pretty much locked down. Way more people are dying from the drugs themselves than from 'turf wars' in Lawrence. It's been that way for at least a decade

Oh I thought this thread was Northeast in general. If it is just New England, I think it would be like Lawrence, Holyoke, Springfield, Hartford and Bridgeport i would say.

Im really not too familiar with Lawrence. Ive seen it once and it was a little scary but im sure some NJ PA NY neighborhoods wipe it away

[Space_League]

Originally Posted by masssachoicetts

Oh I thought this thread was Northeast in general. If it is just New England, I think it would be like Lawrence, Holyoke, Springfield, Hartford and Bridgeport i would say.

Im really not too familiar with Lawrence. Ive seen it once and it was a little scary but im sure some NJ PA NY neighborhoods wipe it away

I'm not sure the exact purpose of the topic. I thought it was the most geographically northern hood in the northeast. So not the most hood place but the most northern place that still passes the hood threshold. None of the places in the OP would pass that threshold. You can meet some hood people in those cities but they are overwhelmingly non hood.

Nashua is literally been Money magazine's #1 best place to live in 2019. Can you get any less hood than that?

Lawrence is definitely hood just not a warzone. Places like Wilmington DE or Chester PA are gonna have 3x violent crime rates and 5x homicide rates than Lawrence year in and year out.

[Lampert]

Originally Posted by Space_League

Lawrence is definitely hood just not a warzone. Places like Wilmington DE or Chester PA are gonna have 3x violent crime rates and 5x homicide rates than Lawrence year in and year out.

In 2019 there were 8 cities in MA alone with an higher violent crime-per capita value than Lawrence.
https://thisweekinworcester.com/fbi-...massachusetts/

[Shrewsburried]

Originally Posted by Space_League

Nashua is literally been Money magazine's #1 best place to live in 2019. Can you get any less hood than that?

Nashua is only ‘hood’ in the minds of New Hampshirites who have never lived outside of their leafy 2 acre min towns. Yes, some sections of town can be sketchy (e.g., the ‘tree streets’), but overall it’s a safe middle class city.

[Lampert]

Nashua violent crime rate is lower than the average of NH...

[AtkinsonDan]

Originally Posted by Shrewsburried

Nashua is only ‘hood’ in the minds of New Hampshirites who have never lived outside of their leafy 2 acre min towns. Yes, some sections of town can be sketchy (e.g., the ‘tree streets’), but overall it’s a safe middle class city.

Originally Posted by Lampert

Nashua violent crime rate is lower than the average of NH...

I actually looked at buying in Nashua when I started looking to move from Mass to New Hampshire. I could not get a couple of sellers to budge on their prices. Eventually the size of my down payment increased. The towns I could choose from increased and then I landed in one of those leafy 2 acre towns via a foreclosure. I certainly could have been happy with a SFH in Nashua but now I have more land to play with.

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by Space_League

Rochester is just very far north. It's further north than anyplace in MA or any other major NY city.

If you're putting PA and NJ in the mix (Which I don't consider NE at all), then Rochester shouldn't crack the top 5. Putting Rochester above Philly hoods or Chester PA doesn't feel right to me. I can't take that seriously. I would put Buffalo above Rochester too, even though it's maybe a better more lively city overall it's still higher crime and more blighted by far.

Lawrence doesn't really belong anywhere on a top 5, especially when you're throwing in NJ and PA hoods. There are some jarring streetscapes and a sophisticated drug market there, but it's just not as violent anymore compared to hoods across the country. The drug trade in northernNE is pretty much locked down. Way more people are dying from the drugs themselves than from 'turf wars' in Lawrence. It's been that way for at least a decade

1. NJ and PE arent the NE at all?? Lol, thats insane.

2. Lawrence's drug traffic and drug deaths is reason alone for #5/6 that's a major part of any hood. Lawrence thrives off a drug and welfare culture and it oozes that. Lawrence has incredible name infamy given its location and size.

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by masssachoicetts

Oh I thought this thread was Northeast in general. If it is just New England, I think it would be like Lawrence, Holyoke, Springfield, Hartford and Bridgeport i would say.

Im really not too familiar with Lawrence. Ive seen it once and it was a little scary but im sure some NJ PA NY neighborhoods wipe it away

Waterbury before Holyoke.

Hartford
Bridgeport
Lawrence
Springfield
Waterbury

I'm pretty certain on that 5

After that it gets murky quick.