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Old 10-24-2020, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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1129 new cases today, the first time over 1000 in months.


I want off this ride.
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Old 10-24-2020, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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MWRA's wastewater testing data is sobering. Buckle up. MWRA - Wastewater COVID-19 Tracking


Note: this data only represents some of the most populous suburbs of Boston. It doesn't reflect other hotspots like Springfield, Lawrence, Lowell, or Brockton.
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Old 10-24-2020, 04:03 PM
 
Location: The ghetto
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1129 new cases today, the first time over 1000 in months.


I want off this ride.

We're in a really bad place. We can argue all day long about which group of people is mostly responsible, but the bottom line is...we can't continue to live our lives this way during a pandemic. It's not working.
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Old 10-24-2020, 04:28 PM
 
Location: The Moon
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Nothing short of an effective vaccine will work in Western and underdeveloped countries. The europeans everyone commended for making use of highly sophisticated socialized medicine are falling flat on their faces. The USA needs no introduction. Canadians were doing well enough to make snarky observations but even they're ticking up. Middle Eastern countries like Iran and Israel are in a rough place right now so the temperature doesn't necessarily have an impact.

With the exception of a few places like New Zealand which is an island, only Asian countries seem to have done well. But that is due to methods that would never fly in a free society.

Masks are a great thing to rally around but it should be obvious by now that they don't do enough. Thankfully treatments have improved and death counts are lower than back in April. The goal was always to keep hospital capacity in the green. Hopefully we've done enough for that to remain the case. This uptick was predicted while the first catastrophe was still in full swing.
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Old 10-24-2020, 04:49 PM
 
Location: The ghetto
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A few days ago the CDC estimated that 299k more people in the US have died since January 2020 than the typical number during the same time period in previous years. And they've attributed at least 200k of the excess deaths to COVID. So, that pretty much doubles the US COVID death count.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...cid=mm6942e2_w


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Old 10-24-2020, 04:53 PM
 
Location: The ghetto
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An uptick is a small increase. That's not the correct word to describe what's happening.
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Old 10-24-2020, 06:18 PM
 
Location: The ghetto
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MWRA's wastewater testing data is sobering. Buckle up. MWRA - Wastewater COVID-19 Tracking


Note: this data only represents some of the most populous suburbs of Boston. It doesn't reflect other hotspots like Springfield, Lawrence, Lowell, or Brockton.

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Old 10-24-2020, 07:06 PM
 
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And the guy who posted the wastewater data, Nicholas Bauer, PhD, when asked if this should trigger a lockdown:
"IMO it should. But these numbers suggest we're already too late. When Boston locked down in March, we had 50-100 copies per mL. We're 2-3x that now."
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Old 10-24-2020, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Nothing short of an effective vaccine will work in Western and underdeveloped countries. The europeans everyone commended for making use of highly sophisticated socialized medicine are falling flat on their faces. The USA needs no introduction. Canadians were doing well enough to make snarky observations but even they're ticking up. Middle Eastern countries like Iran and Israel are in a rough place right now so the temperature doesn't necessarily have an impact.

With the exception of a few places like New Zealand which is an island, only Asian countries seem to have done well. But that is due to methods that would never fly in a free society.

Masks are a great thing to rally around but it should be obvious by now that they don't do enough. Thankfully treatments have improved and death counts are lower than back in April. The goal was always to keep hospital capacity in the green. Hopefully we've done enough for that to remain the case. This uptick was predicted while the first catastrophe was still in full swing.
Basically this. Everyone screaming for more action: what action do you think is realistic? In a society that prides itself on disobedience, anything that expects us to do better is already doomed to failure.

Stopping the spread of infection was never the plan. Slowing it a little, yes, and that’s been done. Now we’re at the part where we ride through this until herd immunity. Hundreds of thousands more will die before we’re done, but most of what can realistically be done has been done. It’s just tweaking things here and there to keep the ICUs from overflowing.

There are no options on the table where this goes away soon.
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Old 10-24-2020, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Masks are important but only go halfway to preventing coronavirus spread. The other (even more important half) is physical distancing and our society as a whole has not been successful at it.



https://www.boston.com/news/coronavi...quare-covid-19


As you can see in the short article above, there are still too many people not wearing masks and not physically distancing while not wearing masks even here in MA. There is only so much our state and local governments can do to admonish people not to do these things.
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