02-23-2012, 10:56 AM
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My husband and I are relocating to the frederick/hagerstown area in April. He's military and will be commuting to Thurmont for work. I wanted to know the pros and cons of each area. We went to visit Frederick in Dec. and I like the area, esspecially Ballenger Creek, but Hagerstown is alot less expensive for rental homes and townhouses not to mention you get alot more for your money.
It seems like Hagertown is really small, I dont mind that as long as the city isnt more than 20 min away! Another issue is a mountain I keep hearing about. Is it true you have to cross a mountain to get into Frederick?
We're orignally from South FL, so I'm not use to driving across mountains filled with snow! We have lived a yr in Germany and a yr NC, so I'm some what use to cold weather. Im not use to driving in it tho!
Any info would be helpful!
02-23-2012, 12:34 PM
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My husband and I are relocating to the frederick/hagerstown area in April. He's military and will be commuting to Thurmont for work. I wanted to know the pros and cons of each area. We went to visit Frederick in Dec. and I like the area, esspecially Ballenger Creek, but Hagerstown is alot less expensive for rental homes and townhouses not to mention you get alot more for your money.
It seems like Hagertown is really small, I dont mind that as long as the city isnt more than 20 min away! Another issue is a mountain I keep hearing about. Is it true you have to cross a mountain to get into Frederick?
We're orignally from South FL, so I'm not use to driving across mountains filled with snow! We have lived a yr in Germany and a yr NC, so I'm some what use to cold weather. Im not use to driving in it tho!
Any info would be helpful!
I lived in Frederick for many years and just recently moved to Hagerstown. You are absolutely correct; housing is much more affordable here and you do get a lot for your money. The city of Hagerstown isn't that big at all. You can travel from one end to the other in about 20 minutes (give or take depending on your route). I live south of the city limits and it takes me under 10 minutes to get to just about anything in down town. As for the mountain(s) yes, you will go over a couple to get into Frederick. I like to set my cruise control and it really helps with my gas mileage. As for the snow, there hasn't really been much this year, but at the mere mention of any frozen precipitation, they've treated all the main roads, in a pro-active manner. You can tell because there are white stripes on the roads. I believe it's a liquid they put down, but I could be wrong. As for the highways, they are well enough traveled that unless you're traveling in a storm, you shouldn't have any problems.
02-23-2012, 05:03 PM
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I don't think you have to cross a mountain to get to Thurmont from Frederick.
02-23-2012, 05:16 PM
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Frederick and Thurmont are in the same valley. The mountain (or mountains once you reach the Middletown Valley) is to the west of these towns.
02-23-2012, 05:48 PM
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MD 77 is a pretty drive, but a bit hairy in bad weather. Smithsburg may be a good option too, only about 8-10 miles via MD 77 to Thurmont. I wouldn't worry about bad weather when choosing where to live, as the weather around here is snowy and slick maybe 5-10 days a year. We're not talking about the Alps or anything even close that. Highways are usually in good shape not long after the bad weather ends, so you could plan accordingly.
02-23-2012, 06:06 PM
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"MOUNTAIN" is a loose term. It's not like the ones you envision in Colorado or anything...it's only *maybe* 2000 feet about sea level and Hagerstown is 500-800 feet above sea level.
Also, I have lived in both areas and I think they each have their own positives. Hagerstown is more laid back, some areas and people are living about 10 years in the past, but Hagerstown has everything you could want (except a Bank of America and there is only 1 S'bux if that is important to you). They have Outlets, an Old Navy at the mall, all the big superstores and a great sense of history. Frederick is larger, has a more vibrant downtown area, numerous S'bux, BofA, great schools and very easy access to I-270 which will take you into DC or 70 which will take you into Baltimore.
What is your number one priority? and you budget?
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I lived in Frederick for many years and just recently moved to Hagerstown. You are absolutely correct; housing is much more affordable here and you do get a lot for your money. The city of Hagerstown isn't that big at all. You can travel from one end to the other in about 20 minutes (give or take depending on your route). I live south of the city limits and it takes me under 10 minutes to get to just about anything in down town. As for the mountain(s) yes, you will go over a couple to get into Frederick. I like to set my cruise control and it really helps with my gas mileage. As for the snow, there hasn't really been much this year, but at the mere mention of any frozen precipitation, they've treated all the main roads, in a pro-active manner. You can tell because there are white stripes on the roads. I believe it's a liquid they put down, but I could be wrong. As for the highways, they are well enough traveled that unless you're traveling in a storm, you shouldn't have any problems.
02-23-2012, 07:19 PM
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Don't be hating on our mountains
Relief is more important than elevation is determining what is a "mountain" and what isn't. Even the pancake flat parts of CO are above 3000 ft. If you are gaining 1,500 feet of elevation in a distance of a few miles via car, that is a steep climb and makes for a very pretty highland area.
Plus coming from FL, even Sugar Loaf will look "mountanious" to our guest
02-23-2012, 07:37 PM
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(except a Bank of America and there is only 1 S'bux if that is important to you).
Seriously Heather? I think I remember now why I left Maryland. People like you who go out of their way to dig at someone. Wish I had remembered before I agreed to move back here.
02-23-2012, 08:23 PM
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Thanks for the help!
Thanks for all the info guys!
!
@Barli we're from Ft. Lauderdale and the Deerfiled Beach area, FL rocks!
lol
@Heather3 We dont want to go over 1600 at the most, my #1 priority is the home! I dont mind a small town as long as a major town isnt to far away! I would like to get as much house for the least amount of money! In frederick most of the homes are close together, while in Hagerstown there's plenty of backyard (my husband prefers this). I would like the home to be fairly new or recently renovated!
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02-24-2012, 04:24 AM
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Seriously Heather? I think I remember now why I left Maryland. People like you who go out of their way to dig at someone. Wish I had remembered before I agreed to move back here.
FYI - I APOLOGIZED IN ANOTHER THREAD. Too bad you didn't get the memo!
This type of behavior is unique to people from Maryland?
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People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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