12-30-2008, 01:32 PM
Location: Sacramento, CA/Dover-Foxcroft, ME
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The only invisible line that I am concerned with is the Time Zone line. I would gladly drive a 1966 Volvo with 400 k miles if we could be in the Atlantic Time Zone.
Then it wouldn't get dim/dark at 3:30 on a cloudy day.
My dad used to tell me about this every year when I visited around the holidays. Now I can see what he was saying. If I get up at 10am, I only have a few hours of daylight left. I know, I know, get up earlier. But I would miss the late night talk shows. I know, I know, use my DVR. But yesterdays news is just late.
FWIW, I never heard of the Volvo Line until I got on this board over a year ago. And when I mention it to other relatives and friends around here, they haven't heard of it either. I've been out of ME for over 28 years so I have an excuse.
And another thing, I seem to know more about what's going on around ME than others around here due to what I read on C-D. They think I'm smaht or something.
12-30-2008, 01:39 PM
Location: Teton Valley Idaho
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oh, I'm SO with you on the time zone thing!! I don't need daylight at 4 am in the summer! I'd rather have it get dark later!
It's nutty.... but I think that most people who live on the edge of the zones probably feel the same way. It's just that our "edge" is 1/8th of a mile away....
12-30-2008, 03:04 PM
Location: Florida/winter & Maine/Summer
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I wonder why Washington and Aroostook counties don't ask to be on Atlantic Standard Time. Indiana counties around Louisville Kentucky have kept strange time for years because the state line straddles the time zone. Dare to be different!
12-30-2008, 03:30 PM
Location: Florida/winter & Maine/Summer
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We have the equivalent of the Volvo line here in Florida. It's the I-4 corridor that separates the demographics and lifestyles of Florida. In the last election, it was close (Florida) because the I-4 corridor that includes Orlando and Mickey World had changed demographics. North of I-4 the state tends to vote Republican, while south of I-4, especially the coasts tend to vote Democratic. That is a tendency to oversimplify, but the trend is there. Just to illustrate how different Florida is, look at all the coasts we have: Treasure Coast, Gulf Coast, Sun Coast, Gold Coast, Space Coast, First Coast, and finally Keys. Each of these areas are in the same state, yet different. I'm rambling here, but Maine isn't the only state that has different regions that are similar, but maintain their own distinct character. Not that one is better than another, just different.
12-30-2008, 03:43 PM
Location: Maine
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Hey! No changing the time zone. I need to be at work at 4 am in the summer while it's cooler and daylight. You guys can close the curtains but I can't control the temperature.
12-30-2008, 05:01 PM
Location: Lebanon, OH
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
mollysmiles
oh, I'm SO with you on the time zone thing!! I don't need daylight at 4 am in the summer! I'd rather have it get dark later!
It's nutty.... but I think that most people who live on the edge of the zones probably feel the same way. It's just that our "edge" is 1/8th of a mile away....
On the other end of the eastern time zone it is light out until close to 10PM in mid June.
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Originally Posted by
maine4.us
Indiana counties around Louisville Kentucky have kept strange time for years because the state line straddles the time zone.
The Indiana counties near Cincinnati keep strange time too(Franklin, Dearborn, Ripley, Ohio, and Switzerland), mainly because so many people there work in Cincinnati, and all radio & local TV comes from Cincinnati, it's referred to as fast time/slow time. The eastern half of the state which is in the eastern time zone does not change to daylight savings time in the summer, so they are eastern time in the winter, central in the summer, except for the counties near Cincinnati that stay on Cincinnati time. The only way to know for sure what time it is in any given place is to check your cell phone.
12-30-2008, 06:48 PM
Location: Emerald Coast
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[quote=maine4.us;6765870]We have the equivalent of the Volvo line here in Florida. It's the I-4 corridor that separates the demographics and lifestyles of Florida. In the last election, it was close (Florida) because the I-4 corridor that includes Orlando and Mickey World had changed demographics. North of I-4 the state tends to vote Republican, while south of I-4, especially the coasts tend to vote Democratic. That is a tendency to oversimplify, but the trend is there. Just to illustrate how different Florida is, look at all the coasts we have: Treasure Coast, Gulf Coast, Sun Coast, Gold Coast, Space Coast, First Coast, and finally Keys. Each of these areas are in the same state, yet different. I'm rambling here, but Maine isn't the only state that has different regions that are similar, but maintain their own distinct character. Not that one is better than another, just different.
12-30-2008, 07:46 PM
Location: Florida (SW)
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......we are three little lambs who have gone astray....
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mollysmiles
Threads are not closed in this forum due to disagreement, and the TOS states that VERY clearly. Threads are closed on this forum when they become something other than what was intended by the OP, when they don't apply to relocation or education concerning the state..... or when disagreements become personal in nature. It's members that cause threads to be closed, not mods.
I cant see that the time zones in Indiana and Ohio or the north and south of Florida....or even in Maine have anything at all to do with the OP, and/or anything to do with relocation or education concerning the state of Maine.....
12-30-2008, 07:53 PM
Location: some where maine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Maine Writer
Hey! No changing the time zone. I need to be at work at 4 am in the summer while it's cooler and daylight. You guys can close the curtains but I can't control the temperature.
well if you wernt so hot you wouldnt have to worry about the temperature.
12-30-2008, 07:56 PM
Location: Teton Valley Idaho
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Originally Posted by
elston
I cant see that the time zones in Indiana and Ohio or the north and south of Florida....or even in Maine have anything at all to do with the OP, and/or anything to do with relocation or education concerning the state of Maine.....
I was responding to RMoores post concerning the Volvo line and the Atlantic Time Zone--it's directly above mine. Sorry you missed it.
Furthermore, I'm not a mod. If you feel something is off-topic you should report it as such.
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Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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Then it wouldn't get dim/dark at 3:30 on a cloudy day.
My dad used to tell me about this every year when I visited around the holidays. Now I can see what he was saying. If I get up at 10am, I only have a few hours of daylight left. I know, I know, get up earlier. But I would miss the late night talk shows. I know, I know, use my DVR. But yesterdays news is just late.
It's nutty.... but I think that most people who live on the edge of the zones probably feel the same way. It's just that our "edge" is 1/8th of a mile away.... 
......we are three little lambs who have gone astray....
