People Eating Tasty Animals (Fairfield, Jackson: credit, clubs, to eat)

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by flycessna

How the H&%$ do these people get their money

The same people who leave money to their pets in their wills give money to PETA

[Boomerang]

Many people don't know that a head honcho at PETA (Ingrid what's-her-name) once wrote open letters admitting that her ultimate goal was non-ownership of all animals. That is to say, for animals to be happy, none of them should be owned by humans, domestic or otherwise.

Well, I can see this to a point --- I think there are a lot of animals which should not be kept as pets, and a lot of people who shouldn't own any animal --- but I just wondered how many domesticated animals would simply and eventually go extinct if no person was interested in owning them? And wouldn't we lose something by not having any of these wonderful creatures around? Then again, preventing abuse of all animals seems impossible to achieve. This begs about a million questions that there are no clear answers for.

The older I get the more sympathy I have with living creatures of all kinds, possibly because I feel ol' Father Time breathing down my neck and know that every form of life will fight to live rather than the reverse. Yet there are limits and practical considerations as well. Tough subject.

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by Boomerang

Many people don't know that a head honcho at PETA (Ingrid what's-her-name) once wrote open letters admitting that her ultimate goal was non-ownership of all animals. That is to say, for animals to be happy, none of them should be owned by humans, domestic or otherwise.

Well, I can see this to a point --- I think there are a lot of animals which should not be kept as pets, and a lot of people who shouldn't own any animal --- but I just wondered how many domesticated animals would simply and eventually go extinct if no person was interested in owning them? And wouldn't we lose something by not having any of these wonderful creatures around? Then again, preventing abuse of all animals seems impossible to achieve. This begs about a million questions that there are no clear answers for.

The older I get the more sympathy I have with living creatures of all kinds, possibly because I feel ol' Father Time breathing down my neck and know that every form of life will fight to live rather than the reverse. Yet there are limits and practical considerations as well. Tough subject.

I feel the same way. I probably should have shot my lemon dog that has bitten everyone in the family multiple times by now but I just can't seem to get by the fact that he seems happy in the world and he really doesn't hurt anything if you just give him his space. We lock him up in the barn when there are a lot of people around or kids but for the most part he's mellowed with age and doesn't snap as much as he used to.
It's sad to see but I also know if there were small kids around here I would have to put him down for safety's sake.

[AlisonL]

Don't even get me started on PETA. Have had dealings with them in past and its best to just ignore them. As for where they get their money, its the old saying "there's a sucker born every minute".

[Nor'Eastah]

Originally Posted by Boomerang

Then again, preventing abuse of all animals seems impossible to achieve.

Actual cruelty to animals should never be tolerated by anyone - including the folks at PETA who profess to love animals to the point where their ideas would in effect constitute cruelty of sorts if allowed to take place.

At present DW and I are involved in just a small project to prevent cruelty to people - young 'uns - and although animal cruelty is a serious matter, to ignore man's inhumanity to man is in our view even more important.

Animals who "belong" to a human usually live a happy life and meet with a humane death. Usually. Not so with too many humans, especially those too young and small to fend for themselves. Their young lives are not happy and their deaths are not humane, nor quick.

Sick minds conceive sick ideas. It's sad when it happens to an animal. It's tragic when it happens to a person, especially a child. If these PETA folks put half - just half - of their energies into preventing child abuse, the world would be a MUCH better place!

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by Nor'Eastah

... Sick minds conceive sick ideas. It's sad when it happens to an animal. It's tragic when it happens to a person, especially a child. If these PETA folks put half - just half - of their energies into preventing child abuse, the world would be a MUCH better place!

But the lives of animals are far more important than human lives, aren't they?

[Maine Writer]

Every time I read about or see an animal that has been abused I wonder how horribly the abuser is treating a person. We've rehabbed a lot of animals. A horse was tied to a tree on a six foot lead and beaten to break her spirit so that she wasn't too much for a young girl to handle was our worst. Her owner went to prison but not for what he did to GiA. Evil people tend to think shooting animals with BB guns, beatings and tormenting are appropriate punishments for bad behavior. When I was a kid my dog was shot with BB's in our yard. I remember how long it took to find some of them. They were infected. We'd been told BB's never break the skin and not to worry. We learned the hard way. The boy who did it ended up in prison. One of the things we've been told by folks who work in rescue and rehab is to pay attention to the people who abuse animals. There's probably human abuse happening some where in their lives.

[Nor'Eastah]

Originally Posted by forest beekeeper

But the lives of animals are far more important than human lives, aren't they?

No, IMHO, they are not. And forest, I know you're just being sarcastic!

[Bandit]

When I saw the title , I started to get all excited , just think , Top models and Movie stars , coming to Maine to stand around Naked with just a covering of SeaWeed .
With My participation in the Massachusettes Sportsmen's Council , I do know where and how they get there money and what there ultimate goal is , but that is not a subject for a open forum .
If You want to see how wacky they are , check out
www.animalrights.net
Bob

[moughie]

Originally Posted by Maine Writer

Every time I read about or see an animal that has been abused I wonder how horribly the abuser is treating a person. We've rehabbed a lot of animals. A horse was tied to a tree on a six foot lead and beaten to break her spirit so that she wasn't too much for a young girl to handle was our worst. Her owner went to prison but not for what he did to GiA. Evil people tend to think shooting animals with BB guns, beatings and tormenting are appropriate punishments for bad behavior. When I was a kid my dog was shot with BB's in our yard. I remember how long it took to find some of them. They were infected. We'd been told BB's never break the skin and not to worry. We learned the hard way. The boy who did it ended up in prison. One of the things we've been told by folks who work in rescue and rehab is to pay attention to the people who abuse animals. There's probably human abuse happening some where in their lives.

Excellent post, Mainewriter! I agree, those who are cruel to others, be they animals or humans, were once abused themselves. It is a vicious cycle.