Jefferson Co homicides at lowest rate in decades (Louisville, Jackson: 2013, crime)

[censusdata]

Just saw an article that Jefferson Co had 51 homicides as on Dec 30, which is the second lowest total in modern history and the lowest rate since the 1950s

http://www.courier-journal.com/artic...WS10/312300050

[Peter1948]

Originally Posted by censusdata

Just saw an article that Jefferson Co had 51 homicides as on Dec 30, which is the second lowest total in modern history and the lowest rate since the 1950s

http://www.courier-journal.com/artic...WS10/312300050

That is GREAT news considering Jefferson County is now at one of its highest populations of all time, and with many more immigrants than before. Great work to LMPD and a sign of an overall healthier, safer city.

[The Dissenter]

Attaboy to Louisville Metro PD.

[censusdata]

The ecyclopedia of lists homicide totals for the old City Limits from the 1950s to 1990s and even just in the city limits there were often more homicides than that. Even in the "old ole days". There were 54 homicides in the city limits in 1950, that's before Elvis became the King. The city at that time had less the half the population the county does now.

Obviously to get to zero homicides is the ultimate goal. 50 is still 50 too many, but glad progress is being made

[tomocox]

Yelp, CD, you are so right. 50 in Louisville is 50 too many.

I bet if we had liberal use of the Death Penalty, there might have been only one or two. We must find a way to stop this massacre. Let's kill 50 in one day, it would be called a massacre... What difference is it really. 50 families suffering plus another 200 wounded, many of who required heroic efforts to save them including those left in a vegetative state.

Come on now... let's find something we can really brag about.

[Peter1948]

Originally Posted by tomocox

Yelp, CD, you are so right. 50 in Louisville is 50 too many.

I bet if we had liberal use of the Death Penalty, there might have been only one or two. We must find a way to stop this massacre. Let's kill 50 in one day, it would be called a massacre... What difference is it really. 50 families suffering plus another 200 wounded, many of who required heroic efforts to save them including those left in a vegetative state.

Come on now... let's find something we can really brag about.

Tom, find me a major US city in the US without homicides and I will find you a place that doesn't exist. Louisville's 2013 doesn't even register anywhere near anything bad, and my guess is you can find some very small towns with more homicides. Still, 50 is too many....I agree

[tomocox]

Peter, unlike you, I am not looking for a city with homicides. I am looking for a city with none. We can't wish it or simply police it. Fire Departments and police departments are responders, not enforcers. Yeah, they can write a ticket, and they can inspect a property, but when the guns go off and the fires start burning, there is damage too late to stop.

Since the "unfair" death penalty was abolished in the 1960's, the unfair burden of innocents killed by individuals who consider themselves to be prosecutor, jury, judge and executioner has far and away replaced the very few innocents executed by the law.

It's time America started realizing that we could put a cop in every house and without fear of more than three hots and a cot (Jesse Jackson, 1996 DNC), murders will still occur.

[The Dissenter]

Originally Posted by tomocox

Yelp, CD, you are so right. 50 in Louisville is 50 too many.

I bet if we had liberal use of the Death Penalty, there might have been only one or two. We must find a way to stop this massacre. Let's kill 50 in one day, it would be called a massacre... What difference is it really. 50 families suffering plus another 200 wounded, many of who required heroic efforts to save them including those left in a vegetative state.

Come on now... let's find something we can really brag about.

Compared to the 100+ DC had this year, it is something that can be bragged about. Louisville is one of the safer big cities in the US, any large city would like to be able to say that.

Virginia is one of the states that uses the death penalty more effectively than anyone and there are still homicides here. In fact my hometown in Southern VA had 15 murders this year which is not good considering our population is only around 140k. Renegade use of the death penalty like you are mentioning is not the solution.

[tomocox]

Originally Posted by The Dissenter

Compared to the 100+ DC had this year, it is something that can be bragged about. Louisville is one of the safer big cities in the US, any large city would like to be able to say that.

Virginia is one of the states that uses the death penalty more effectively than anyone and there are still homicides here. In fact my hometown in Southern VA had 15 murders this year which is not good considering our population is only around 140k. Renegade use of the death penalty like you are mentioning is not the solution.

Ok, so I am wrong. That's great, but am I really? May not stop all the murders, heck even the historic times of Rome or Bible mention murder and heck, Christ was crucified next to a common thief. I am not ignorant, but this I do know, lifers back on the street won't be killing their next innocent little girl sitting on her porch, or in her families living room.

The war zones must be cleared. I am a Realtor. I make my living selling homes and getting paid a commission based on how much they sell for. War zones, ie. Detroit, have little or no value.

Now, let's talk about human value. Politically liberal people evidentially don't have much for other people's lives. Abortion of humans, but don't dare harm the feather of an owl. Murder just for the heck of it, as 45 of the 55 Louisville deaths likely were. (The other 10 yes they had value, but their deaths like Sgt. York said when he shot 20 Germans, saved many more.)

You who think crime is ok at any number really need to stop being apologetic. Please think about it.

[MissingIndiana]

Originally Posted by tomocox

Ok, so I am wrong. That's great, but am I really?

You who think crime is ok at any number really need to stop being apologetic. Please think about it.

Yes, I would say you're wrong on multiple points, but mostly in that you seem to be attacking somene about a statement you never understood in the first place. The original comment you started this rant off of said they were happy that the murder rate had gone down so much. No one said that many murders was still ok, just that it was good the number had gone down. That decrease indicates not so much that the police are doing their job, but more so that the community is headed in a positive rather than negative direction. I'm not really sure why you have such a problem that people would be excited or proud that the murder rate in their city had gone down or why there is a need for the attitude that anything short of the impossible is acceptable.