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Old 07-15-2022, 10:10 PM
 
Location: all over the place (figuratively)
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The rest of her comment was, “The reality is that we’re living with a mutating SARS-CoV2 virus.” And the virus can't mutate if it doesn't spread.

https://deadline.com/2022/07/los-ang...ts-1235064434/



The powerful airline and other tourist industries would have never allowed then, and they won't now.
If the polls strongly supported making it hard to travel internationally, restrictions would happen. The public is more of the problem than those industries are.

 
Old 07-16-2022, 06:44 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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If the polls strongly supported making it hard to travel internationally, restrictions would happen. The public is more of the problem than those industries are.
I disagree. Look at the tobacco and gun industries. There are only so many restrictions that people will follow, anyway. We saw that with the mask mandates.
 
Old 07-16-2022, 06:51 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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Workplaces throughout Los Angeles County are being hit hard by the latest coronavirus wave, with the number of reported case clusters nearly quadrupling since early May.

In L.A. County, outbreaks are occurring at work sites with the greatest number of employees, including airports.

Also affected are companies associated with food production and retail. They include Smithfield Foods in Vernon, which processes hogs, with 54 cases; Costco in Burbank, with 38; Whole Foods Market in Glendale, with 30...

Aerospace companies reported a number of clusters, including Raytheon in El Segundo, with 34 cases; Lisi Aerospace in Torrance, with 31; and the Aerospace Corp. in El Segundo, with 26.

Warner Bros. Studios in Burbank reported 49 cases; the cluster occurred a month after the studio started asking employees to come back to the office for at least three days a week.

The “clusters and outbreaks are disruptive and hazardous, particularly as many more outbreaks now involve 20 or more workers,” L.A. County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer said this week. “Staff need to abruptly take time off to isolate and recover, leading to staffing shortages and interruptions in customary operations. Work-site outbreaks create worrisome risk for vulnerable employees, and they often contribute to additional spread of the virus across households and communities where our workers live.”

Roughly 42% of coronavirus-positive patients in L.A. County are being treated for COVID-19 illness; the remainder are hospitalized for other reasons. Nonetheless, patients infected with the coronavirus represent a potential strain on the healthcare system, due to greater resources needed to isolate them.


Coronavirus cases soar at L.A. County workplaces, complicating back-to-office push:
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...-nursing-homes
 
Old 07-16-2022, 08:57 AM
 
Location: all over the place (figuratively)
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I disagree. Look at the tobacco and gun industries. There are only so many restrictions that people will follow, anyway. We saw that with the mask mandates.
A complete ban on guns has never been sought, and more than mild restrictions run into debatable constitutional issues.
Tobacco wouldn't exactly be easy to get rid of, ban or not.
A ban on most international travel would be much easier to do than make people wear masks, which this county is doing anyway.
If you (CA4Now or anyone else reading) want that travel ban, be vocal about it.
 
Old 07-17-2022, 11:03 AM
 
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Workplaces throughout Los Angeles County are being hit hard by the latest coronavirus wave, with the number of reported case clusters nearly quadrupling since early May.

In L.A. County, outbreaks are occurring at work sites with the greatest number of employees, including airports.

Also affected are companies associated with food production and retail. They include Smithfield Foods in Vernon, which processes hogs, with 54 cases; Costco in Burbank, with 38; Whole Foods Market in Glendale, with 30...

Aerospace companies reported a number of clusters, including Raytheon in El Segundo, with 34 cases; Lisi Aerospace in Torrance, with 31; and the Aerospace Corp. in El Segundo, with 26.

Warner Bros. Studios in Burbank reported 49 cases; the cluster occurred a month after the studio started asking employees to come back to the office for at least three days a week.

The “clusters and outbreaks are disruptive and hazardous, particularly as many more outbreaks now involve 20 or more workers,” L.A. County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer said this week. “Staff need to abruptly take time off to isolate and recover, leading to staffing shortages and interruptions in customary operations. Work-site outbreaks create worrisome risk for vulnerable employees, and they often contribute to additional spread of the virus across households and communities where our workers live.”

Roughly 42% of coronavirus-positive patients in L.A. County are being treated for COVID-19 illness; the remainder are hospitalized for other reasons. Nonetheless, patients infected with the coronavirus represent a potential strain on the healthcare system, due to greater resources needed to isolate them.


Coronavirus cases soar at L.A. County workplaces, complicating back-to-office push:
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...-nursing-homes
Always and forever, it is/will be able to be said that there is some POTENTIAL for hospitalizations to rise. This has ALWAYS been the case and will ALWAYS be the case. As such, mere POTENTIAL for some unknown but potentially negative outcome at some undetermined time CAN NOT be used to justify disciplinary mandates on the citizens. I encourage everyone to follow the lead of the likes of Governor Gavin Newsom and Mayor Eric Garcetti: disobey the mask disciplinary mandates. Ignore them. Perhaps, depending on your career, apologize AFTER the fact. Do not comply!
 
Old 07-17-2022, 11:04 AM
 
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A complete ban on guns has never been sought, and more than mild restrictions run into debatable constitutional issues.
Tobacco wouldn't exactly be easy to get rid of, ban or not.
A ban on most international travel would be much easier to do than make people wear masks, which this county is doing anyway.
If you (CA4Now or anyone else reading) want that travel ban, be vocal about it.
Certifiable insanity.
 
Old 07-17-2022, 12:28 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Always and forever, it is/will be able to be said that there is some POTENTIAL for hospitalizations to rise.
"...counties are generally entering the high COVID-19 community level when hospitalizations are exceeding a threshold of 10 new weekly coronavirus-positive hospitalizations for every 100,000 residents."

L.A. County is now only at 8 per 100 k.

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mere POTENTIAL for some unknown but potentially negative outcome at some undetermined time CAN NOT be used to justify disciplinary mandates on the citizens.
"Disciplinary measures"?

“We are not closing anything down. We are not asking people not to gather with the people they love. We are not asking you to forgo activities you love,” Los Angeles County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer said last week. “We’re asking you to take a sensible step when there’s this much transmission, with a highly transmissible variant, to go ahead and put back on a well-fitting, high-filtration mask when you’re indoors around others.

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...ovid-19-levels
 
Old 07-17-2022, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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"...counties are generally entering the high COVID-19 community level when hospitalizations are exceeding a threshold of 10 new weekly coronavirus-positive hospitalizations for every 100,000 residents."

L.A. County is now only at 8 per 100 k.



"Disciplinary measures"?

“We are not closing anything down. We are not asking people not to gather with the people they love. We are not asking you to forgo activities you love,” Los Angeles County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer said last week. “We’re asking you to take a sensible step when there’s this much transmission, with a highly transmissible variant, to go ahead and put back on a well-fitting, high-filtration mask when you’re indoors around others.

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...ovid-19-levels
As long as Barbara’s asking and not ordering…….which I don’t see happening. Where’s Gavin on this? I’m surprised he’s not locking down Ca again..but it is a election year
 
Old 07-17-2022, 11:15 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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Certifiable insanity.
Is it? Then what does that make telling people to stay in their homes for months at a time?
 
Old 07-19-2022, 06:29 PM
 
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Is it? Then what does that make telling people to stay in their homes for months at a time?
A crime against humanity, worthy of substantial time similarly locked up against their will.
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