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Old 11-20-2018, 08:31 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC View Post
Someone who is working with them makes these claims and you want me to give you data huh?
I already asked him/her once long time back. S/he responded angrily ... without data.

Your turn.
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Old 11-20-2018, 08:35 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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lol only you would take some stat over what a person sees with their own eyes in the LA trenches everyday.
You bet. But I am not the only one. Read my little anecdotal story? Or how about you consult with crime investigators about the processes of ferreting out what is real in faked suicides, for one example. Do you really believe everything you see when you go to a magic show? How about the advertising of food packaging that claims to be serving your health with the long list of ingredients you’ve never heard of and can’t pronounce?

A social worker charged with administrating one program does not necessarily have a total view and command of the larger system of many programs.
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Old 11-20-2018, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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I already asked him/her once long time back. S/he responded angrily ... without data.

Your turn.
He won't provide it for obvious reasons. His career would be in jeopardy.
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Old 11-20-2018, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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lol only you would take some stat over what a person sees with their own eyes in the LA trenches everyday.
Come on now, this is an anonymous internet forum, none of us knows who is telling the truth and who isn't, but if a person claims that 1/3 of the homeless are scammers I would expect that they could provide some support for that without disclosing their identity. And it's apparently kttam186290 that you guys are referencing, I was having a heck of a time finding "kittam"
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Old 11-20-2018, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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She works with the homeless and has posted on the Orange County sub forum; see the most recent post on the homeless thread there.
I found their posts, thx.
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Old 11-20-2018, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Someone who is working with them makes these claims and you want me to give you data huh?
Since when did you start accepting everything a person posts on these forums without question? It seems that the only time that happens is when they are saying things that confirm what you want to hear.
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Old 11-20-2018, 09:52 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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He won't provide it for obvious reasons. His career would be in jeopardy.
Oh balderdash. That was never claimed during our exchanges.

Anyway, I think almost certainly that the figure of 1/3rd given is misunderstood by you. I wouldn’t doubt for a second that 1/3rd of that worker’s clients might appear to be scammers. That said, any one social worker or program administrator is not seeing a full spectrum of homeless. Many homeless never seek program assistance. Many are not capable of seeking in their mental or altered states. Many homeless (remember 75% don’t remain homeless for long) are solving their own circumstances through various means and are too either embarrassed, humiliated, angry, impatient, or fearful of contacting authority for any reason.

Likely YOU are mistaking what the worker said.
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Old 11-21-2018, 06:50 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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Since when did you start accepting everything a person posts on these forums without question? It seems that the only time that happens is when they are saying things that confirm what you want to hear.
Is that ever the truth.

Last edited by CA4Now; 11-21-2018 at 06:58 AM..
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Old 11-21-2018, 07:01 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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This pilot program, which would pay homeless people $13/hour to pick up trash, sounds hopeful.

The pilot is designed to help homeless people who have trouble latching on to even the lowest rungs of the economic ladder.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/edit...120-story.html
Boy was this post lost in the bickering, huh? Lol
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Old 11-21-2018, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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Homeless used for election fraud.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...120-story.html
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