The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (San Diego, San Francisco: contemporary, advantages, city hall)

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

I understand that is your, and several other posters’, point. But the declaration jm made is total fiction. And so is any attempt to agree with those statements.

There is no special class status ... there is no policy restricting enjoyment of your properties.

I believe jm was referring to the cases where homeless people have their encampments directly abutting somebody's property. Those cases can certainly prevent somebody from enjoying their property due to noise, smells, health issues, safety issues, prying eyes, etc. In fact, there was a case in Anaheim where a father was furious about homeless people being able to look directly into his daughter's room from their encampment.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

I believe jm was referring to the cases where homeless people have their encampments directly abutting somebody's property. Those cases can certainly prevent somebody from enjoying their property due to noise, smells, health issues, safety issues, prying eyes, etc. In fact, there was a case in Anaheim where a father was furious about homeless people being able to look directly into his daughter's room from their encampment.

I understand that and appreciate the frustration the situation justifiably causes.

But I don’t condone false, hyperbolic fabrications. They are counterproductive. There are no official sanctions giving the homeless preferred or special class status or rights to infringe on private properties. This situation is a chaotic management nightmare.

As several of us have been saying for a thousand posts: thinking homelessness is a simple problem with simple solutions is naive.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

I believe jm was referring to the cases where homeless people have their encampments directly abutting somebody's property. Those cases can certainly prevent somebody from enjoying their property due to noise, smells, health issues, safety issues, prying eyes, etc. In fact, there was a case in Anaheim where a father was furious about homeless people being able to look directly into his daughter's room from their encampment.

I can't believe that anyone would live adjacent to a homeless camp and not have a video camera trained on it and be calling the local cops every time they observed a violation of the law. I know it's not fair, but the 'squeaky wheel theory' works very well in getting situations like that resolved. If I were the father in Anaheim, I would probably be concerned about anyone peering in his daughters room, not just homeless people, and I would probably put some blinds on her window.

[CA4Now]

"Drugs, abuse — these are problems that millions of people deal with across the country. And yet most people don't become homeless. What finally landed Bay and Bobby on the streets was a series of evictions.

Bay was in government-subsidized housing in Hemet when she let some friends move in who weren't on the lease. She got evicted.

Then, not long afterwards, Bay and Bobby got evicted from another apartment after it became infested with bedbugs and they couldn't keep up with the extermination fees...."

This OC Couple Is Clawing Their Way Out Of Homelessness, And Texting Us Along The Way:
https://laist.com/2018/08/10/oc_coup...otel_texts.php

[LuvSouthOC]

What a couple of screw ups! This story just shows how bad their choices are, HORRIBLE! They are far from just "lacking in housing".

[Finper]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

What a couple of screw ups! This story just shows how bad their choices are, HORRIBLE! They are far from just "lacking in housing".

Oh how that story is typical though. Drugs, bad history, mental issues blah blah. Same story different day. I especially noted the part where Bobby refused a job because he "wanted to find housing first". No Bobby just dosn't want to work. I'd bet money their back on the streets today. Oh and why don't they move back home to East Coast?? Because they want to "prove they can make it to her parents".... What a crock of ****

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

What a couple of screw ups! This story just shows how bad their choices are, HORRIBLE! They are far from just "lacking in housing".

I completely agree, they are screw ups and they make horrible choices. If they didn't they probably wouldn't be homeless. That's what police and social services have to deal with every single day. I'm not sure what a good answer to this is, I think that the woman needs mental health treatment but she's not harming anyone so you can't force her into it.

It's a messy problem, the best solution for them would be if her 'supportive' parents would take the couple in and try to help them manage their lives better but I'm guessing that if that was a possibility it would have already happened.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

I completely agree, they are screw ups and they make horrible choices. If they didn't they probably wouldn't be homeless. That's what police and social services have to deal with every single day.

Exactly. What is it that people don't understand about this? The homeless are not like you and I. This is not a matter of "why can't they think the way I do?" If they did, most likely they wouldn't be homeless.

[TCROX]

.....or have long histories of mental illness, doing nothing but sucking up public resources, and crime - lots of anti- social behavior like most “homeless “

[TCROX]

It’s way past time to get full transparency and accountability for the tax money being spent on this .
Who has gotten the most money?
Where is the money now?
They should be proud to disclose that information.