The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (Arnold: penalties, cancel, applications)

[jm1982]

This young lady might have a future in the homeless industry in L.A. She could be a bigwig at one of these countless homeless advocate organizations.

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Homeless Man Says He's Still Waiting for $200,000 Raised on GoFundMe After Viral Act of Charity


https://gizmodo.com/womans-gofundme-...mpression=true

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

You present only two options as if those were the only ones possible. I reckon buildings prisons wouldn’t have worked right, as a means to end the overcrowding? Like widening freeways supposedly doesn’t reducing traffic on a given freeway, likewise building prisons to end overcrowding just wouldn’t work under regressive logic.

When Plata was decided there was not enough time to build new prisons, Kennedy said as much in the majority decision of Plata. It takes 5-10 years to build a new prison. Site acquisition is a lengthy process requiring lengthy public hearings site surveys and constructing infrastructure. The newest 'prison' is the billion dollar prison hospital in Stockton. Groundbreaking for that facility occurred in 2010, since it was built on the site of a closed juvenile facility site there was no need for public hearings or much permitting. The facility opened in late 2013 only to be closed in 2014 until numerous issues were addressed.

Over 12,000 jail beds have been added throughout the state to house the non-violent felons mandated to serve their sentence in county jails, some counties have contracted with private prisons to provide housing for those inmates. CDCR has built dorm facilities on the grounds of existing prisons because they can house more inmates at a lower cost than a typical facility which consists of single or double occupancy cells. So it's not like California just quit adding capacity, but it's stupid expensive and at some point there have to be decisions made about which people we really need to keep in prison and which can be managed in some other way.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

You just said you are opposed to housing parolees, make up your mind...you can't have it both ways.

Nice deflection so you don't have to answer any questions. I didn't say I want parolees housed I asked why isn't liberal feel good Politicians doing anything worthwhile here???

[Exitus Acta Probat]

OMG, look! This homeless man was verbally "assaulted" by a police officer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChsFthRfNWE

I wonder if that poor homeless man ever recovered from that mean police officer telling the homeless man that panhandling is not permitted...

[Exitus Acta Probat]

All this poor guy needs is a home. That's the only reason he's on the street -- a home will have him acting like a normal, mentally stable person.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuGM8nur4BM

[Exitus Acta Probat]

They're just like everybody else -- keep moving folks, nothing to see here.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-_D2C8Li1s

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

When Plata was decided there was not enough time to build new prisons, Kennedy said as much in the majority decision of Plata. It takes 5-10 years to build a new prison. Site acquisition is a lengthy process requiring lengthy public hearings site surveys and constructing infrastructure. The newest 'prison' is the billion dollar prison hospital in Stockton. Groundbreaking for that facility occurred in 2010, since it was built on the site of a closed juvenile facility site there was no need for public hearings or much permitting. The facility opened in late 2013 only to be closed in 2014 until numerous issues were addressed.

Over 12,000 jail beds have been added throughout the state to house the non-violent felons mandated to serve their sentence in county jails, some counties have contracted with private prisons to provide housing for those inmates. CDCR has built dorm facilities on the grounds of existing prisons because they can house more inmates at a lower cost than a typical facility which consists of single or double occupancy cells. So it's not like California just quit adding capacity, but it's stupid expensive and at some point there have to be decisions made about which people we really need to keep in prison and which can be managed in some other way.

Because California ruled that new prisons or expand existing ones out beforehand. Stop lying like regressives do. Of course there wasn’t time at the time of the ruling. The truth is they opposed adding more room.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Because California ruled that new prisons or expand existing ones out beforehand. Stop lying like regressives do. Of course there wasn’t time at the time of the ruling. The truth is they opposed adding more room.

What does that even mean? "california ruled that new prisons or expand existing ones out beforehand" The two cases that lead to the Supreme Court decision were filed in 1990 and 2001 and you are saying "there wasn't time"? In 2006 Schwarzenegger declared that conditions in the Prisons constituted a "state of emergency" but didn't do anything about it. It's not like this just happened overnight. And as I said California fought this tooth and nail, had they settled the outcome would have been far better.

And the next time you call me a liar, please point out exactly what I lied about because unless you can do that it looks very much like trolling or a personal attack.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

OMG, look! This homeless man was verbally "assaulted" by a police officer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChsFthRfNWE

I wonder if that poor homeless man ever recovered from that mean police officer telling the homeless man that panhandling is not permitted...

So, back to more random YouTubing that proves nothing about the topic, I guess. Here you link an episode from Tampa because? ... I demonstrated that you have no command of the psychology of your previous accusations on this topic. So now you are just trying to ridicule homelessness because it makes you feel superior? What?

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

All this poor guy needs is a home. That's the only reason he's on the street -- a home will have him acting like a normal, mentally stable person.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuGM8nur4BM

Again you demonstrate your lack of knowledge of the topic. Here you have posted a YouTube of (New York) a fairly well known performance artist named Matthew Silver. He has a blog, a Facebook page, has been on America’s Got Talent, has produced and played parts in various videos and documentaries. He is not homeless. Some interviewers and individuals hold him in some good regard for the philosophies he espouses in his various performances. You can look him up. I, personally, am not impressed because I don’t enjoy public displays much ... but ...

Point being: he’s apparently not a homeless nutcase at all.