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Old 09-09-2009, 05:43 AM
 
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Sorry the employer has a right to validate your credientials. He can request the college records for your degree or your high school records. He can also validate any special certification you may have.
Checking records is far, far different from requiring you to prove your innocence of a crime in which there is not even grounds for suspicion much less an arrest or charges filed. And please do not conflate "the right" and what "is right." Obviously employers have "the right" to require pre-employment drug testing, but that does not make it right.

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So straighten up for a few months and pass the drug test. At least it gives you a base in what reality is like.
Please refrain from accusing me of illegal activity. As I've already said once, I have literally never used an illegal drug in my entire life and I rarely even drink.
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Old 09-09-2009, 05:47 AM
 
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Perhaps you should consider applying for jobs where no drug test is requires. I suspect, with your gift of gab, you would make a great carny.
What's your point? You don't like what I have to say but are unable to support your beliefs so you resort to taking pot-shots?
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Old 09-09-2009, 05:50 AM
 
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but it gives me an added sense of security and trust knowing full well that the employees aren't going to be a problem while they aren't at work.
(A) What business is it of yours what your employees are up to outside of work?
Are you paying them while they are off the clock too?

(B) That's a seriously false sense of security. As just one example -- look at olecapt's advice, all it takes is to stay clean for a few months to pass the pre-employment test and then they can party like a rockstar.
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Old 09-09-2009, 09:58 AM
 
Location: El Camino Real
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What's your point? You don't like what I have to say but are unable to support your beliefs so you resort to taking pot-shots?
Why was my post a pot shot?
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Kingman AZ
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(A) What business is it of yours what your employees are up to outside of work?
Are you paying them while they are off the clock too?

(B) That's a seriously false sense of security. As just one example -- look at olecapt's advice, all it takes is to stay clean for a few months to pass the pre-employment test and then they can party like a rockstar.
If you are doing things off work that will bring discredit on the company, you are history.
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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I think drug tests are a real positive for most who work in the Vegas casinos.

Why? Because Vegas that has established that tipping is expected there, even for things people don't normally tip for at home. But few people are going to want to give the service employee tips if they feel they are sustaining a drug habit. If Las Vegas gives itself the reputation that many people who have drug addictions work in the casinos because they get sufficient income to sustain the habit, tipping will go way down and none of the workers will like that.

That's not the reason for the company doing it, but all the workers who are employed benefit from their coworkers not having drug addictions.
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:20 PM
 
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Drug testing is nothing more than just another multi-million dollar industry. The drug that stays in your system the longest is pot, which happens to be much less harmful than meth, coke, mdma, or anything else. Those who are legally allowed to use pot (under NV law) are screwed. Speaking of which, let's not forget about legal drugs, such as booze, pills, and nicotine. I'd rather hire an employee who smokes a joint on weekends than some chain smoking pill popping alcoholic.
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Old 09-09-2009, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Here and there, you decide.
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ok so you cheat the drug test at hire, what do you do about the randoms.. don't tell me it's illegal.. that's bs... i just went for my 3rd interview at a company and am going for the drug test tomorrow.. the consent for the drug test waives your rights...and you won't be hired without signing it...
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