[built2boost]

Originally Posted by lvjen

Can anyone tell me what type of drug testing method Caesar's Palace uses for employment?
Blood, urine, hair, saliva? I'm applying in the F&B dept.

Jen,

At my company I hire everyone that is an employee no matter how trival...Sure it costs 250$ a shot, but it gives me an added sense of security and trust knowing full well that the employees aren't going to be a problem while they aren't at work. Because in one way or another what employees do away from work will eventually catch up with them at there jobs. This doesn't apply to everyone but it applies to most people and I'll play my odds with this.

We do hair tests which are the most evasive in terms of finding an applicants history...We tell them it goes back 12 months while in actuality it only goes back 6 months. Although, we don't tell them if they have done drugs in the past 10-14 days, it will not pick up as it has not blended into the hair DNA yet.

Hope this helps, Good luck with getting the job.

What department is F&B?

[airics]

food and beverage

[jfkIII]

The way the drug test works at Caesar's Palace is kind of unique...as drug tests go. And I can only speak from the male perspective. First, they ask you to totally strip down. They then paint your naked body completely in white. After the paint dries, they take you through some underground tunnel that brings you up in the middle of the shopping mall. They tell you that you are to play the Statue of David and instruct you to stand as still as possible in the Statue of David pose (and even tell you that your employment there depends on how well you perform at that task!) They then instruct that exactly at the top of the hour, a lightning bolt will strike and all other white statues will come alive. You will then be instructed by King Atlas to pee in a cup at the alloted time and in front of all the tourists standing around and watching the show. Drug test will then be performed live by some other animatronic statues, as part of that hour's show, and you (and everyone else watching) will be notified of the results at the end of the show. If you fail, King Atlas will put you to death.

They are very serious there about their drug testing.

[tazz]

Originally Posted by jfkIII

The way the drug test works at Caesar's Palace is kind of unique...as drug tests go. And I can only speak from the male perspective. First, they ask you to totally strip down. They then paint your naked body completely in white. After the paint dries, they take you through some underground tunnel that brings you up in the middle of the shopping mall. They tell you that you are to play the Statue of David and instruct you to stand as still as possible in the Statue of David pose (and even tell you that your employment there depends on how well you perform at that task!) They then instruct that exactly at the top of the hour, a lightning bolt will strike and all other white statues will come alive. You will then be instructed by King Atlas to pee in a cup at the alloted time and in front of all the tourists standing around and watching the show. Drug test will then be performed live by some other animatronic statues, as part of that hour's show, and you (and everyone else watching) will be notified of the results at the end of the show. If you fail, King Atlas will put you to death.

They are very serious there about their drug testing.

It doesn't get any more "vegas" than that.

[dynimagelv]

Originally Posted by tazz

It doesn't get any more "vegas" than that.

JFK is LYING.........It's not King Atlas....it's Luigi the bentnose guy.

[RCCCB]

Originally Posted by jfkIII

The way the drug test works at Caesar's Palace is kind of unique...as drug tests go. And I can only speak from the male perspective. First, they ask you to totally strip down. They then paint your naked body completely in white. After the paint dries, they take you through some underground tunnel that brings you up in the middle of the shopping mall. They tell you that you are to play the Statue of David and instruct you to stand as still as possible in the Statue of David pose (and even tell you that your employment there depends on how well you perform at that task!) They then instruct that exactly at the top of the hour, a lightning bolt will strike and all other white statues will come alive. You will then be instructed by King Atlas to pee in a cup at the alloted time and in front of all the tourists standing around and watching the show. Drug test will then be performed live by some other animatronic statues, as part of that hour's show, and you (and everyone else watching) will be notified of the results at the end of the show. If you fail, King Atlas will put you to death.

They are very serious there about their drug testing.

You only wish! :-)

[cedar_bluff_tree_farm]

Originally Posted by built2boost

Jen,

At my company I hire everyone that is an employee no matter how trival...

Yeah, most employees at my current company (as well as my previous employers) have also been hired. Glad to hear that my workplace isn't the only one out there that hires it's employees.

[MediocreButArrogant]

Originally Posted by cedar_bluff_tree_farm

Yeah, most employees at my current company (as well as my previous employers) have also been hired. Glad to hear that my workplace isn't the only one out there that hires it's employees.

He meant that he personally does the hiring of everyone, rather than leave the decision to others.

[cedar_bluff_tree_farm]

Originally Posted by MediocreButArrogant

He meant that he personally does the hiring of everyone, rather than leave the decision to others.

No, he actually meant "At my company I test everyone that is an employee no matter how trival"

But it sounds much more funny when he said that he hires all employees.

[Kaiminani]

Originally Posted by Daddys///M3

I "Otherwise, the most common reasons for clearance denial are serious repeated financial problems, intentional false statements in connection with a clearance investigation, recent illegal drug involvement, repeated alcohol abuse, and a pattern of criminal conduct or rule violation. For most people these issues can be mitigated, if presented properly during a security interview.

You are either being disingenuous or have completely missed my point. In order to OBTAIN a clearance, no drug test is required. Maintaining certain clearances depends on passing a drug if there is reasonable suspicion to require a test - but no test is required to gain a clearance because the government follows a basic premise - that unless you have acted like a criminal, it is assumed that you are not a criminal.

Furthermore, random drug testing in non-safety-critical jobs is illegal - not withstanding specific employment contracts like those used for professional sports. The only reason pre-employment drug-testing gets past the constitution is because it is not a condition of maintaining employment because you are not yet employed. But as far as I'm concerned, that's just a legal slight of hand because the practical difference is trivial, at least it is for the people who are least able to refuse such testing because they are in desperate need of a job.

1. and 3. Have you ever tried to get a job driving? They do, in fact, require a 3 year MVR.

2. Have you ever worked in the financial industry? I do, and to get my license I had to undergo a background check that looked specifically for white collar types of criminal background.

Not to mention that many of these jobs (especially in any type of government agency whether federal, state, or local and many in the private sector) will require a criminal background check as well as a credit check. This argument is not valid.

Ok, now you really are being disingenuous - all the items you listed refer to checking records. No "background check" will ever reveal a crime that nobody has even been arrested for. A drug test is fundamentally different because you are required to prove your innocence - simply having as clean record - not having any drug arrests or convictions - is still not good enough because we are all assumed to be criminals by default.

I'm un-American and inhumane because I feel that if you want to work for a certain company you should follow their policies? I've got American for you, you are free to apply for the job. The employer is free to require any type of legal and constitutionally allowable test or check they wish. If you disagree then you are free to seek other employment. Freedom baby!! It doesn't get any more American than that.

Blind chants of "freedom" don't really make much of a point. The idea that people are assumed legitimate and law-abiding unless there is reason to think otherwise is also a fundamental american value - sometimes this idea is expressed as innocent until proven guilty. Pre-employment drug testing assumes people are criminals and requires them to prove their innocence when there is absolutely no reason to think they are a criminal in the first place.

How many folks do you think would bribe a facilities employee a couple of grand for a $30,000 a year job? That's where you lost me, your scenarios are unrealistic.

How so? If the choice is between zero income and income minus paying off the local loan-shark a couple of grand over a year, is the math really so hard to do? Besides, you have picked the worst case scenario of my examples, are the other far cheaper routes all that difficult to compute?

As far as the emporer wears no clothes, I can only assume you mean the failed war on drugs and drug policy in this country.

No, the emperor has no clothes refers to the fact that drug tests are absolutely pointless against a determined individual. And yet it has become common place in this country to require them. A waste of money and an erosion of our basic dignity as a people.