[smokersaremiscreants]

Originally Posted by Ryan_Eagan

Don't hang out around smokers. Problem solved.

I don't. Smokers are everywhere. That is why the ultimate solution is to have smoking banned from every place except from one's private home that is 100% detached.

[smokersaremiscreants]

Originally Posted by MSchu

this just in...
I'm off to pollute someones personal space.

May you receive the same treatment.

[clutchcargo777]

Originally Posted by smokersaremiscreants

That's because the very sight of an object that looks like a cigarette is enough to turn people's stomachs.

So you agree it isn't really about the smell, the health hazards or anything else. You just want me to act like you.

How childish.

I don't think I could have conceived of a better social experiment then eCigs. For years anti-smokers have droned on about second hand smoke. They whined about how we were killing them. In the blink of an eye we invented something that removed every complaint they had (no smell, no carcinogenic compounds for them, or us, to inhale). But that wasn't good enough. It's all about control. Next will be food. You better eat the same way they do. Oh wait, it's already happening. Don't forget folks, we are all now in the same risk-pool insurance wise.

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by smokersaremiscreants

That's because the very sight of an object that looks like a cigarette is enough to turn people's stomachs.

Speak for yourself.

Does the sight of a pencil make you gag?

[oeccscclhjhn]

Originally Posted by Harrier

Speak for yourself.

Does the sight of a pencil make you gag?

you realize you're arguing with a 7+ month old post. is the guy still alive? and, you came from california to prolong the argument.

[ddrhazy]

Probably the worst state to live in if you want to be away from cigarettes.

[anchoragedan]

There's never been any definitive study to link SECOND HAND smoke to any lung disease. It's a scam by the anti-smoking nazis.

I say this as a person who has never smoked in my life. Second hand smoke may be unpleasant, but there is no evidence it is dangerous.

[FrostyToasty]

Originally Posted by anchoragedan

There's never been any definitive study to link SECOND HAND smoke to any lung disease. It's a scam by the anti-smoking nazis.

I say this as a person who has never smoked in my life. Second hand smoke may be unpleasant, but there is no evidence it is dangerous.

The health effects of second hand smoke has scientific consensus. It is accepted by every major medical association. There are literally hundreds of peer reviewed studies published on the topic. I have no idea what you could consider definitive but this is as definitive as it gets. Even Philip Morris acknowledged second hand smoke is harmful.

The latest Gallup Poll shows that only 5% of Americans believe second hand smoke is not harmful. Apparently they'll always be some that believes in wild conspiracy theories regardless of evidence.

[FrostyToasty]

Originally Posted by SoCalCpl2

And as fr moving to Californias.. Hell just breathing the air here will kill you more than any cigarette smoke....

Nope. Some people don't seem to realize compared to the rest of the world, air quality in the US is extremely clean. Yes even in Los Angeles. Here's NASA satellite image on air quality worldwide:

NASA - New Map Offers a Global View of Health-Sapping Air Pollution


Air quality in the US also continues to improve every year despite higher population and more cars:

50-Year Decline Found in Some Los Angeles Vehicle-Related Pollutants
New York’s Air Is Cleanest in 50 Years, Survey Finds


Look toward Beijing and Shanghai if you want to see what real air pollution looks like and you'll thank the fact the EPA exists.

http://cdn.theatlanticcities.com/img...0TV%20bldg.JPG
http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/17/30/14...3/rawImage.jpg
http://jto.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-conte...0131022e1a.jpg

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by FrostyToasty

Even Philip Morris acknowledged second hand smoke is harmful.

They were forced to do that as part of the ludicrous judgment against them in that frivolous lawsuit.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_1...say-they-lied/