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Old 10-24-2012, 07:36 AM
 
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E-6 right here. LVOC is right on one particular branch if he is talking about a Warrant Officer in the Army. They are a crossover/hybrid of enlisted to officer ranks. That's the only third tier that I can think of.






I guess warrant officer would be more of an upper middle management position when related to the casino realm.

I would live to hear more "how I got my position on the strip" stories from members on here.

Maybe another thread??




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Old 10-24-2012, 08:58 AM
 
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We've gotten a little carried away with the military comparison. The only point of that was to show that both in business and the military, there are different entry points for different levels for people with different levels of education and skills.

A casino isn't going to hire someone wiht a Cornell hospitality degree (and pay them what that commands) then have them be housekeepers or bar backs. They'll move them into management training positions, and, if they cut it, move the into management.

Someone off the street with a HS diploma (or not), if they get a job, it will be more menial. If they do well at the menial job, they'll probably move into the first level of supervision. If they do well their, the might have a chance to move up. However, the house will probably want a certain level of education to get into the higher level management ranks. The worker in question will probably have to bite the bullet and get that, if they want to get beyond a certain point.
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:38 AM
 
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E-6 right here. LVOC is right on one particular branch if he is talking about a Warrant Officer in the Army. They are a crossover/hybrid of enlisted to officer ranks. That's the only third tier that I can think of.






I guess warrant officer would be more of an upper middle management position when related to the casino realm.

I would live to hear more "how I got my position on the strip" stories from members on here.

Maybe another thread??




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Von--
warrants are technical specialists;not managers. most of the warrants in the army are helicopter pilots.

for example, after 15 years a warrant officer will still flying the helo on a daily basis. he will be a damn good pilot. the army spec op pilots are all senior warrants. After 15 years in, a Lt. Col will be the XO of an aviation battalion and will focus much less on flying and more on managing/admin type stuff.

i am also interested in how people got their jobs on the strip. i think most of them just applied online. maybe another thread should be started.
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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We've gotten a little carried away with the military comparison. The only point of that was to show that both in business and the military, there are different entry points for different levels for people with different levels of education and skills.

A casino isn't going to hire someone wiht a Cornell hospitality degree (and pay them what that commands) then have them be housekeepers or bar backs. They'll move them into management training positions, and, if they cut it, move the into management.

Someone off the street with a HS diploma (or not), if they get a job, it will be more menial. If they do well at the menial job, they'll probably move into the first level of supervision. If they do well their, the might have a chance to move up. However, the house will probably want a certain level of education to get into the higher level management ranks. The worker in question will probably have to bite the bullet and get that, if they want to get beyond a certain point.
BBMW--do you know facts or are you just speculating? i am not being coy I just really am curious.

What is the career path like for a BA and MBA in the casino world? What's the starting salary for each? I was looking at the employment placements for Cornel's MMH (they dont have an MBA program ) and frankly i was not impressed. The one definite Vegas placement got a job at Las Vegas Sands as a Global Slots Associate--whatever that is and the other possible Vegas placement was as as Marketing Manager for the Wyndham Hotel Group.

One BA kid got a job as a the Asst Manager of slot marketing at the MGM grand.

http://www.hotelschool.cornell.edu/s.../postgrad.html

It seems that you really must work your way up from, at best, lower management.
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:57 AM
 
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Asst Manager of something is exactly the entry level management position I was talking about. Note they have some title, and are not sweeping floors, washing dishes, or making beds. They will likely be gofering for "real" managers, but that's how the get trained.

Also BA and MBA are much differently levels, unless a person did a BA, then an MBA back to back. The assumption is that someone with an MBA has some significant work experience.
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Old 10-24-2012, 11:40 AM
 
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And it's not like it's some big mystery. When I was hired, I told the person who hired me about my career plan. He told me, "do this today, then do this, then this, then this."

They will tell you exactly how to get to where you want to be. At least that's been my experience.
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:21 PM
 
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How about the Executives of Caesar's as an example..

Loveman is the past chairman of the American Gaming Association. He is a member of the President's Export Council and serves as Chairman of the Business Roundtable's Committee on Health and Retirement. He also serves as a director of Coach, Inc. and FedEx Corporation and sits on the Board of Trustees at Children's Hospital Boston and the Visiting Committee of the Department of Economics at M.I.T. He holds a Ph.D. in economics from M.I.T., where he was an Alfred Sloan Doctoral Dissertation Fellow, and a B.A. in economics from Wesleyan University.

Baker joined Caesars Entertainment (then Harrah's Entertainment) in 2005 as the Executive Associate to the Chairman, President and CEO. Prior to that, he was President and COO of HomeGain, Inc, a national online real estate services company, and was Senior Vice President and General Manager at Wells Fargo. He also held various positions with Booz, Allen & Hamilton over a 10-year period.

Baker holds a bachelor's degree from Duke University and an MBA from Stanford University.

Prior to joining Caesars, Garber served as CEO of companies trading on the London Stock Exchange, Nasdaq and Toronto Stock Exchange, most recently as CEO of PartyGaming PLC from 2006 to 2008. Garber is an attorney, who represented a number of major land-based gaming companies in private practice between 1990 and 1999. He is a member of the International Association of Gaming Attorneys (IAGA), and in 2009 was voted one of the ten most influential people in the gaming industry by Global Gaming Business Magazine.

Jenkin joined the company in 1975 as a fry cook at Harrah's Las Vegas. In 1993, he was promoted to Senior Vice President and General Manager of Harrah's Laughlin, and five years later was named Senior Vice President and General Manager of Harrah's Las Vegas. Jenkin assumed oversight of the Rio and Harrah's Laughlin in 2001 and 2002, respectively, before being named Western Division President in

Prior to joining the company in 1999, Jones Blackhurst served two terms as mayor of the City of Las Vegas. During her eight-year tenure, Las Vegas was the fastest growing city in America and was named the No. 1 city in the nation for entrepreneurs by Inc. magazine.

Jones Blackhurst is the former chairwoman of the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority, the former director of the Nevada Resort Association, and has held senior positions with the Nevada state arm of the Democratic National Committee. She currently serves as a director of the U. S. Chamber of Commerce and the Women's Campaign Fund in Washington, D.C. She also is a member of the Women's Leadership Board at the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University. Jones Blackhurst has been honored by the American Diabetes Association and the "I Have A Dream" Foundation, and she was named Humanitarian of the Year in 1998 by the Muscular Dystrophy Association. In 2005 she was honored by the Women of Diversity in their project "100 Years of Influence – The Role of Women Shaping the First 100 Years of Las Vegas." The Human Rights Campaign awarded Jones the Equality Pioneer award in 2007.

Jones Blackhurst holds a bachelor's degree in English from Stanford University and attended the University of Southern California's School of Food Marketing Management.


Payne is active in several charitable, civic and community organizations, including New Orleans Metropolitan Visitors and Convention Bureau, the New Orleans Tourism Marketing Corporation, the Idea Village and the Audubon Institute. He holds a bachelor's degree in political science from Duke University and a master's degree in business, finance and marketing from Northwestern University.



Prior to joining the company in 2006, Thomas served in a variety of leadership roles at Allied Domecq Spirits & Wines and during her 17 years with that company, Thomas held HR positions in Europe and Asia. Her most recent role was Senior Vice President of Human Resources – North America.

Thomas holds a bachelor's degree in sociology from the University of Central England

Prior to joining Caesars Entertainment in 2011, Tight had over 20 years of experience in large-scale international hospitality and entertainment development in Asia, Europe, and the Middle East. He spent 17 years with The Walt Disney Company, including executive roles in the development and operations of Disneyland Paris, and leading the successful negotiation of Hong Kong Disneyland where he was appointed Managing Director. Most recently, Tight was CEO of two real estate development companies in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, focusing on luxury hospitality and entertainment mixed-use developments.

Tight holds a bachelor's degree in Architecture from Stanford University and an MBA from Harvard Business School.

Tariq joined Caesars Entertainment in 2012 from McKinsey & Company, where he was a Principal. There, he led the Firms' loyalty practice and worked with clients across a range of consumer businesses, including travel, entertainment, and financial services, on revenue stimulation, marketing and growth topics. Before McKinsey, he worked in the technology industry, co-founding a social media company, and servicing as a director of marketing and business development at Trilogy, an enterprise software company. He was also a Principal at The McKenna Group, a Silicon Valley based firm focused on marketing and growth strategies.

Tariq holds a bachelors and masters degree in Mechanical Engineering from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Stanford University, respectively, and a masters degree in Technology and Policy from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

Miller has spent his career as a leader at several of the world's most recognizable hospitality and consumer brands. Prior to joining Caesars in 2004, he spent eight years at Universal Studios Parks and Resorts group, including the last four years as President of Universal Studios 2,000-acre theme park resort in Spain. While at Universal, Miller was involved in several large-scale projects including the development of Universal Orlando and Universal Studios Japan. Previously, Miller served in various strategic planning and finance roles at PepsiCo.

Miller holds a bachelors degree in Business Administration from the University of Notre Dame. He later received a Masters Degree in Management, with a concentration in Marketing, from the Kellogg Graduate School of Business at Northwestern University.

I skipped the Corporate counsel as no schooling listed though obviously a well experienced lawyer.
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:24 PM
 
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And it's not like it's some big mystery. When I was hired, I told the person who hired me about my career plan. He told me, "do this today, then do this, then this, then this."

They will tell you exactly how to get to where you want to be. At least that's been my experience.
Right on.

I don't even know how many family members I have working on the strip but 99% of them got to their positions with starting at the bottom and lots of time.

My Aunt-in-law, who has been at the Venetian since it opened, jokes that she is stuck in her current position until someone dies. She also claims that there are at least 20 others that are waiting, like herself, on that someone to die so they can move up also.

Those upper level positions will probably always be filled from within, not off the streets.




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Old 10-24-2012, 12:34 PM
 
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If this ain't a true "work your way from the bottom" story, then I don't know what is.



http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/news/2...-garcia-keeps/

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How did you find work in the resort industry?

Well, I had this job with the landscaping company, and I liked it. We had a small contract at the Mirage, to fix the irrigation system in the volcano. I came in and fixed the irrigation, and all of a sudden we got more work and more work, and I was asked to assist a resident who lived out in Summerlin.

The gentleman happened to be an executive with the Mirage, and he asked about me. He said, “You need to work for us!” The next day he called me into the horticulture office, and from there he called Shadow Creek, the golf course (owned at the time by Steve Wynn, who also owned the Mirage) and talked to the managers there. They had an opening. I interviewed for the job, I was offered the job, but the guy who owned the landscaping company told them not to hire me because I was their best worker. When the executive found out about this, he made a call to Shadow Creek. I won’t tell you what he said, but in a few days I was working at Shadow Creek (laughs). There are some angels that are looking out for me. I worked there until 1998, when I was transferred to the Bellagio.

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Old 10-24-2012, 01:45 PM
 
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BBMW--do you know facts or are you just speculating? i am not being coy I just really am curious.

What is the career path like for a BA and MBA in the casino world? What's the starting salary for each? I was looking at the employment placements for Cornel's MMH (they dont have an MBA program ) and frankly i was not impressed. The one definite Vegas placement got a job at Las Vegas Sands as a Global Slots Associate--whatever that is and the other possible Vegas placement was as as Marketing Manager for the Wyndham Hotel Group.

One BA kid got a job as a the Asst Manager of slot marketing at the MGM grand.

Post-Graduate Employment and Summer Experience Reports - Cornell School of Hotel Administration

It seems that you really must work your way up from, at best, lower management.
speculating 100%!
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