[lvoc]

Actually it is three tiered.

non-commissioned ranks.

Commission ranks

Those on the general officer track.

I expect the Casino Industry is the same.

Serving time on the front desk is a perquisite to show you have done it all.

General officer tract have to run a good platoon. But it will be a good platoon in a place with stature.

I have a daughter who has a running arrangement with a major retailer. She once ran one of their national lead departments...now she mucks around on part time stuff in human relations and store management. But if she ever decides to get back in they will likely let her run a store. Her credentials are punched.

[von949]

Originally Posted by ipzig1

A friend of mine just moved to Las Vegas from Manhattan. She worked in NYC as an office manager for an AV company. She would like to work for one of the casino's in Vegas but it is more difficult than originally anticipated. It seems like if you have never worked in a casino or the hospitality industry they have no interest. Can anybody help with advice. Thank you.

What is AV? Adult Video?

Anyway...

What exactly does your friend want to do on the strip? "Office Manager" is very broad.


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I'm guessing audio/visual.

[Datafeed]

Originally Posted by ScoopLV

Well, you can go to West Point get get straight into middle management in the military. Or go to Harvard business school and do the same at a casino. I went to culinary school and avoided starting as a dishwasher. But I have coworkers who started as dishwashers. That's "the bottom" in the culinary world. And there are executive chefs who started there. Ambition, skill and attitude will put you where you want to be.

Casinos, in my experience, never hire people directly into the plum positions. Those positions must be earned. It is a fairly good system, all things considered.

either you assumed too much or I should have been clearer. There is no way to lateral into a military position.

I mean, to become a company, field, or flag grade officer there is a non-dispensable time in grade requirements.

What this means is that you will not make 0-6 any faster than 17-20 years. You could be the most kick ass aviator, graduated #1 a Annapolis, got 100% on your evaluations, shot down 20 Taliban Migs with a .45, saved the President's life and you will not be getting command of an aircraft carrier until 17-20 years in. YOU WILL NOT GET YOUR EAGLE ANY SOONER THAN THAT.

There is no such thing as three tiered ranks...although there are some 0's that are labeled "fast burners" and if they are perfect they get to O-G at 17 instead of 19.2 years.

The military is actually quite political abd certain billets will propel you forward while others do not...it's about getting a good mix of command, staff, and mentor time for the Officers.


Even see a 29 year old General in a serious army?

[Datafeed]

back on topic though...what Von said is correct for anyone who posts on this board: you must get your foot in the door and work your way up.

if you have the quals or connects to parachute into a middle or senior management position (whatever that means in casino speak) you are not posting here.

[lvoc]

Originally Posted by Datafeed

either you assumed too much or I should have been clearer. There is no way to lateral into a military position.

I mean, to become a company, field, or flag grade officer there is a non-dispensable time in grade requirements.

What this means is that you will not make 0-6 any faster than 17-20 years. You could be the most kick ass aviator, graduated #1 a Annapolis, got 100% on your evaluations, shot down 20 Taliban Migs with a .45, saved the President's life and you will not be getting command of an aircraft carrier until 17-20 years in. YOU WILL NOT GET YOUR EAGLE ANY SOONER THAN THAT.

There is no such thing as three tiered ranks...although there are some 0's that are labeled "fast burners" and if they are perfect they get to O-G at 17 instead of 19.2 years.

The military is actually quite political abd certain billets will propel you forward while others do not...it's about getting a good mix of command, staff, and mentor time for the Officers.


Even see a 29 year old General in a serious army?

It is possible to end up a general officer by more than one route. Same thing with the CEO of a major casino.

But let us not kid ourselves. There is, and has always been, a general track. The difficulty of ending up a general if you don't come out of an Academy is vastly more than if you do.

We all start out equal...some however are more equal than others.

[VegasGhost]

You don't want a criminal record if you're looking for casino work...That's for sure. I don't think they're very compromising in that aspect, however it may say on the application under "This does not necessarily prevent employment".

[ScoopLV]

Originally Posted by Datafeed

either you assumed too much or I should have been clearer. There is no way to lateral into a military position.

I mean, to become a company, field, or flag grade officer there is a non-dispensable time in grade requirements.

What this means is that you will not make 0-6 any faster than 17-20 years. You could be the most kick ass aviator, graduated #1 a Annapolis, got 100% on your evaluations, shot down 20 Taliban Migs with a .45, saved the President's life and you will not be getting command of an aircraft carrier until 17-20 years in. YOU WILL NOT GET YOUR EAGLE ANY SOONER THAN THAT.

There is no such thing as three tiered ranks...although there are some 0's that are labeled "fast burners" and if they are perfect they get to O-G at 17 instead of 19.2 years.

The military is actually quite political abd certain billets will propel you forward while others do not...it's about getting a good mix of command, staff, and mentor time for the Officers.


Even see a 29 year old General in a serious army?

And that's why I said you could go straight to MIDDLE MANAGEMENT -- Lieutenant or Lieutenant Commander. That's "middle management" for the Navy. I never suggested that anyone could go straight to flag-grade. In that respect, in a casino it's far easier to work your way up to the equivalent of Captain or Commander. After that, yeah, there's some time to be put in for either career.

[Harrier]

LOL @ the comparisons in here between the military and the casino industry!

[Datafeed]

Originally Posted by lvoc

It is possible to end up a general officer by more than one route. Same thing with the CEO of a major casino.

But let us not kid ourselves. There is, and has always been, a general track. The difficulty of ending up a general if you don't come out of an Academy is vastly more than if you do.

We all start out equal...some however are more equal than others.

I hate to hijack this poor woman's thread. Sorry. But the answer to her question can be found in Scoop's and Von's responses.

I will clarify and you will read. Capeesh?

If you have a certain level of education--a BA for Regular Army and at least an AA for the National Guard--you can join as an officer, as an Ensign in the Navy or a 2nd Lt in the non-sea going branches. For 95% of people this holds true.

If you are a lawyer or a doctor and join the service by the time you arrive at your first duty station you are a Ltjg or a first Lt. I believe they make Capt or LT faster than normal O's but once they hit Capt or LT there time in grade levels out to what a Normal O's would be. That is they wont be promoted for another 9-11 years.

(I think if you are a PHd Scientist and do NBC stuff it may hold true too).

No exceptions. You could develop a cure for Aids and you will still be a Lt or Capt at year eight.

Yes, "ring knockers" or academy grads tend to dominate the flag officer ranks. but this is not necessarily due to favoritism or a fixed system. it's just that dudes who go to UCLA on a ROTC scholarship to pay for school normally get out after they serve their 4,5, or 6 (if they fly) years. the Academy grads tend to more hard corp but there are plenty of Os that do very well that are not Academy grads. General Powell and many others.

I was never an Officer but I am sure if one pops up he or she will say I am correct. I was an E-4 and that was enough for me.

I have some questions about the casino industry but i don't want to thread hijack so i guess I will start a new thread.