[jet757f]

SO why did all these guys leave Las Vegas? Where did they go?

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by NLVgal

You know you've been here in Vegas too long when you read a true crime mob novel, see a guy's name and say, " Hey, there's a picture of me sitting on that guy's lap at Disneyland when I was five."

That is beautiful!

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by jet757f

SO why did all these guys leave Las Vegas? Where did they go?

To prison - or a coffin.

[NLVgal]

Originally Posted by Harrier

To prison - or a coffin.

They were lucky if they got a coffin. The Spilotros ended up as fertilizer in a cornfield in the midwest.

Reuben Sturman died in prison after he was re-captured. (When his trial was pending, a family member of mine received bomb threats. Good times.)

Don't think for one minute that the mob is totally gone from Las Vegas. You can't forget about the Crazy Horse and all the lovely things that emanated from there Crazy Horse Too - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

About five of our county commissioners did time for corruption involving that guy, and that was in recent memory, not something that happened fifty years ago.

It was sort of odd how Buffalo Jim was found dead in a hotel room within days of Rizzolo's release.

This is a good website for more information Rick Rizzolo connection

[irishspy]

Las Vegas has Castro to thank because Cuba as the Mafia's first choice but we know what happen there. It would have been interesting to see how LV would have evolved through the years if the MOB still ran things. I live in the Desert Inn area and about 1 mile from LVN golf course. Many of the mob and their cronies use to live in this area too bad the walls in many houses can not talk. The good days are over never to be had again and our society would never adjust to that way of running LV. The next new wave of how LV is going to be run will be all of the foreign investors coming soon so LV will be loosing what little charm it has left. One big corporation just eats up another smaller one out here. The real facts about the MOB times in LV will never be fully explained to many so called legit politicians names are involved in it. The older casinos Downtown have a history but they are even going by the way side Binions poker room is not even open anymore. The only way for improvement for service shows and food and etc will be stiff competition but that will be short lived once the foreign companies get fat. Don Rickles still performs out here so all is not lost

[dynimagelv]

Originally Posted by jet757f

SO why did all these guys leave Las Vegas? Where did they go?

Howard Hughes....

He paid them far more then their investment and REAL mobsters retired quietly....ths SPITlotros we scum pure and simple....ad to that Mix the one term scum Mayor [think his name was Kennedy] from the mid 70's introduced the pimps to Las vegas and welcomed them with open arms [He was the commander of the vice squad and running for Sherriff]

He brought pimps n street hos from all over the west to las vegas and gave them free reign....That brought about the downfall of Ralph Lamb.

I lefet LV in 1979 for Atlantic City with the Golden nugget ....when I came back on business about 3 months later, I saw street walkers on Fremont Street for the first time in my life...

The Sheriff, fought a hard battle against them but he couldn't survive the numbers.

I missed the SPITlotro years for Atlantic City ....they should have been corn fertilizer a long time earlier

During that time the 'Pimpmobiles" began to out number the Rolls Royces by 10 to 1

During the good years LV had more Rolls per capita then ANY city in the WORLD, London Included.

[P47P47]

Originally Posted by dynimagelv

I lefet LV in 1979 for Atlantic City with the Golden nugget...

Were you working at the Golden Nugget in Las Vegas in the '70's?

I was watching the "Tomorrow" show with Tom Snyder in the late '70's when his guests were a few professional gamblers (including Amarillo Slim) and casino owners. They were talking about card counters, and some of the casino owners said that they would ban people that they suspected were counting cards. The owner of the Golden Nugget said that they didn't ban card counters because for every card counter who actually COULD count cards and take them for some money, there were a hundred people who THOUGHT that they could count cards, and they'd make their money back, plus plenty more, on them.

Snyder later asked him just how he got into the casino-owning business. He replied that it was sort of a family business, since his parents owned and operated a LEGAL bingo parlor in Anne Arundel County, Maryland.

I grew up in Anne Arundel County, and lived there when I saw that show. I remember when Anne Arundel, and three other Maryland counties, were the only places in the country, other than Nevada, where slot machines were legal. After making them illegal in the mid-'60's, they were re-legalized a year ago, and table games were just added.

[BBMW]

There was also the feds cracking down nationally on the mob and their union allies. At the same time corporate money started coming in to replace the Teamster money that was no longer available.

It wasn't the demise of the Spilotro gang that marked the end of mob rule in Vegas, it was when the Feds busted the families in the midwest that were running and skimming the casinos.

Originally Posted by dynimagelv

Howard Hughes....

He paid them far more then their investment and REAL mobsters retired quietly....ths SPITlotros we scum pure and simple....ad to that Mix the one term scum Mayor [think his name was Kennedy] from the mid 70's introduced the pimps to Las vegas and welcomed them with open arms [He was the commander of the vice squad and running for Sherriff]

He brought pimps n street hos from all over the west to las vegas and gave them free reign....That brought about the downfall of Ralph Lamb.

I lefet LV in 1979 for Atlantic City with the Golden nugget ....when I came back on business about 3 months later, I saw street walkers on Fremont Street for the first time in my life...

The Sheriff, fought a hard battle against them but he couldn't survive the numbers.

I missed the SPITlotro years for Atlantic City ....they should have been corn fertilizer a long time earlier

During that time the 'Pimpmobiles" began to out number the Rolls Royces by 10 to 1

During the good years LV had more Rolls per capita then ANY city in the WORLD, London Included.

[dynimagelv]

Originally Posted by P47P47

Were you working at the Golden Nugget in Las Vegas in the '70's?

I was watching the "Tomorrow" show with Tom Snyder in the late '70's when his guests were a few professional gamblers (including Amarillo Slim) and casino owners. They were talking about card counters, and some of the casino owners said that they would ban people that they suspected were counting cards. The owner of the Golden Nugget said that they didn't ban card counters because for every card counter who actually COULD count cards and take them for some money, there were a hundred people who THOUGHT that they could count cards, and they'd make their money back, plus plenty more, on them.

Snyder later asked him just how he got into the casino-owning business. He replied that it was sort of a family business, since his parents owned and operated a LEGAL bingo parlor in Anne Arundel County, Maryland.

I grew up in Anne Arundel County, and lived there when I saw that show. I remember when Anne Arundel, and three other Maryland counties, were the only places in the country, other than Nevada, where slot machines were legal. After making them illegal in the mid-'60's, they were re-legalized a year ago, and table games were just added.

no, my secondxwifewhatzername worked for the two top dawgs [Steve and Bob] tey took her to AC and they made me an offer I couldn't refuse so she would go ...

Steves dad had an piece of a bankrupt joint in Waysons Crossing MD....it was a failing bingo parlor....when his dad died [stone cold broke except for the bingo joint] Steve moved down there to execute his half of the control....Waysons didn't want him to have control so they bought him out for a couple hundred thou....[mid 60ish] Steve and Elaine Moved to Vegas.

Steve walked into a local bank and into the vice presidents office....introduced himself said Ive herd youre the BEST Finance man in Las Vegas. I want you to come to work for me. Bob said Whaddya do???? Steve said "I dunno , we'll figure that out later."

Bob submitted his resignation that after noon

The first thing they did was take Steves little $250K and buy some property on the strip.....I know youre sayin NO Strip property for 250K....and youre right, unless it was a powerline acces corridor between Caesars and Flamingo-Dunes road

day after it closed they put up 12 ft chain link with guards....that had been the ONLY access for deliveries for ALL of Caesars Palace.....NO access from the north or the west.....ONLY from the south

5 days later Steve sold that lil piece for a VERRY Large chunka change and promptly bought 10% of the Frontier...enough to become employed there as the slot director while he learned the business....less then a year later he bought to GN for a CASH deal and he was off n runnin

and yes, Steve never barred a counter....they were his advertisement caus he knew they were F.O.S.

for every one that could count there were 20 more than couldn't count to 21 without unzipin their fly.

Uston was a frequent guest at the nugget in AC....full RFB.....just 'don't play here Kenny"

[P47P47]

Thanks a lot for the info.

Does the Golden Nugget still maintain that policy toward counters?