[swagger]

Originally Posted by happyhunting

"Older home" neighborhoods I like: Scotch 80s, ...

Originally Posted by eventusstultorummagister

Scotch 80s: The Scotch 80s is one of the oldest master-planned communities in Las Vegas. This upscale neighborhood is bordered by Charleston to the north, Oakey to the south, Interstate 15 to the east and Rancho to the west. The Scotch 80s is home to working families and noted celebrities. Mayor Oscar Goodman lives in the neighborhood, and former residents include entertainer Jerry Lewis and casino mogul Steve Wynn.

This is the area we live in. I rather like it, and it's very centrally located.

[Danknee]

Originally Posted by eventusstultorummagister

In the last 15 years there have been 430 construction defect cases filed in Clark County...

CRACKERBOX PALACES

From the 2010 Census 74,000 new construction homes were built in Nevada in the year 2010 alone. Of those, I believe that 30,000 of those were built in Clark County. Keep in mind that this is two years after the first housing bubble burst and keep in mind these numbers are only for one year. Now put into perspective the 430 measly construction defect cases filed in 15 whole years. I think your data proves the opposite of what you think it does.

[von949]

Where are those homes that were in the Movie Casino located?

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by Danknee

From the 2010 Census 74,000 new construction homes were built in Nevada in the year 2010 alone. Of those, I believe that 30,000 of those were built in Clark County. Keep in mind that this is two years after the first housing bubble burst and keep in mind these numbers are only for one year. Now put into perspective the 430 measly construction defect cases filed in 15 whole years. I think your data proves the opposite of what you think it does.

Don't think so. I would even be skeptical of 10% of that number. I believe the SNHB had about 5300 homes in each of the last two years and is runing below that pace this year.

I would think the census bureau was reporting something else. Maybe housing units including hotel rooms etc. But it still sounds high to me.

[Danknee]

Originally Posted by olecapt

Don't think so. I would even be skeptical of 10% of that number. I believe the SNHB had about 5300 homes in each of the last two years and is running below that pace this year.

I would think the census bureau was reporting something else. Maybe housing units including hotel rooms etc. But it still sounds high to me.

Okay, let's use your numbers then. 5300 x 15 = 79,500 homes in 15 years divided by 430 construction defect cases equals half of one percent (.5%) of the new construction had a construction defect case filed against the developer.

My point is just that 430 CC construction defect cases in 15 whole years is not a good statistic to bring up when trying to argue that new construction is defective in general.

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by Danknee

Okay, let's use your numbers then. 5300 x 15 = 79,500 homes in 15 years divided by 430 construction defect cases equals half of one percent (.5%) of the new construction had a construction defect case filed against the developer.

My point is just that 430 CC construction defect cases in 15 whole years is not a good statistic to bring up when trying to argue that new construction is defective in general.

Actually I would think more than 100,000 homes but in perhaps a 1000 developments which gives about a 43% rate.

[Danknee]

Originally Posted by olecapt

Actually I would think more than 100,000 homes but in perhaps a 1000 developments which gives about a 43% rate.

Maybe, if you believe that every home in a particular tract is included in every defect case. Keep in mind that even within a tract that used the same contractor and even the same sub-contractors will likely not include all or even most homes. Say a case is made for sky lights that are installed incorrectly and leak during rain. Every house in that tract may not have skylights and even among those that do, the ones where the sky lights are installed correctly will not be included in the settlement.

Also, a construction defect case can be brought against a contractor by a single home owner as well. In this case your 43% is grossly exaggerated.

When looking for the dependent variable responsible for an increase among defect statistics, the argument can be made that the dependent variable may not be shoddy construction at all. The dependent variable could very well be construction defect attorneys and their development of successful tactics to sue profitably (these ones will increase the number of homes per suit as they are more likely to deliver more revenue for the attorneys). Realistically the dependent variable could also be hardware suppliers and their sources or even changes in building code which may effectively change the definition of "defective" to a court.

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by Danknee

Maybe, if you believe that every home in a particular tract is included in every defect case. Keep in mind that even within a tract that used the same contractor and even the same sub-contractors will likely not include all or even most homes. Say a case is made for sky lights that are installed incorrectly and leak during rain. Every house in that tract may not have skylights and even among those that do, the ones where the sky lights are installed correctly will not be included in the settlement.

Also, a construction defect case can be brought against a contractor by a single home owner as well. In this case your 43% is grossly exaggerated.

When looking for the dependent variable responsible for an increase among defect statistics, the argument can be made that the dependent variable may not be shoddy construction at all. The dependent variable could very well be construction defect attorneys and their development of successful tactics to sue profitably (these ones will increase the number of homes per suit as they are more likely to deliver more revenue for the attorneys). Realistically the dependent variable could also be hardware suppliers and their sources or even changes in building code which may effectively change the definition of "defective" to a court.

These are barndoor statistics. If you got the order of magnitude right that is about all that can be expected.

Actually the number is well down in recent years mainly do to Nevada legislation that makes the process more difficult. And then again no body is building.

Personal view is that this belief they did it better in the 50s is all myth.

In fact if you want an efficient to cool and heat house get somenthing done in the last ten years. .

[Shipresa]

Originally Posted by von949

Where are those homes that were in the Movie Casino located?

Paradise Palms. There is a slew of custom made homes over there near the National Country Club (the old golf course a few blocks behind Wynn's course). Those are in the Tioga, Ottawa and Cochise street areas.

The Casino Movie house is on Cochise at the end of the block. I think it is 3515 Cochise.

The neighbor house next door is Robert Maheu - Howard Hughes' right hand man.

http://www.paradisepalmslasvegas.com/
Influential people who lived in Paradise Palms



Here is a brief and unfinished list of influential people who lived in Paradise Palms. All these names can be confirmed through the assessors website.

3328 Pawnee Dr. - Rip Taylor and Sam "Baby Shoes" Prezant (bookmaker associated with the mob)
1438 Cayuga pkwy. - Bobby Darin
3451 Sioux. - Pierre Bezard (Dunes music director)
1688 Pawnee cir. - Bruno Scarrone (choreographer for Folies Bergere)
1676 Pawnee cir. - Jerry Gordon (vice president Flamingo) and Tim Alexander (drummer for Primus)
3333 Seminole cir. - Johnny Carson and Joe Lewis (boxer)
3572 Spencer. - Frank Rosenthal (the movie CASINO was based on this person)
3355 Nahatan way. - Dick Cantino (musician/actor) and Vido Musso (musician)
1499 Cayuga pkwy. - Phyllis Diller
1761 Ottawa dr. - Stanley Morgan (the Ink Spots)
3614 Ottawa cir. - Walter Zick (architect)
3628 Ottawa cir. - Dolores Fuller (actress/song writer for Elvis)
2144 Ottawa dr. - Harris Sharp (architect)
2082 Ottawa dr. - Frank Masterana (black book gambler)
2058 Ottawa dr. - Debbie Rynolds and Sonny Liston
3456 Pueblo way. - Max Baer (actor - Jethro Bodine)
2201 Geronimo. - Shecky Greene
3541 Maricopa. - Jay Sarno (Circus Circus / Caesars Palace) and Robert Bigelow (Bigelow Areospace)
1499 Cayuga pkwy. - Fredric Apcar (Dunes show producer)
3398 Seneca dr. - Frank Pellegrino (actor)
3237 Seneca. - (Liberace's protegee)3333 Arapaho cir. - David Victorson (Caesars entertainment director)
1948 Raindance way. - David Swan (comedian/actor)
3325 Arapaho cir. - Nick Esposito (musician)
3482 Pueblo way. - Foster Brooks (actor) and Dionne Warwick (who lived there briefly, but used to rent it to the Riviera for their headlining acts such as Engelbert Humperdink, Bob Newheart, and Burt Bacharach)
3858 Pima lane. - Red Mcilvaine (talk show host, comedian, local t.v. guy)
3853 Pima lane. - Donald Sotherland (actor)
3326 Arapaho cir. - Juliet Prowse (actor, engaged to Frank Sinatra, dated Elvis Presley)
3525 Cochise. - Frank Schivo (Sahara part owner) and Robert Maheu (F.B.I., C.I.A., and right hand man to Howard Hughes)
1618 Seneca. - Michael Schivo (concert promoter)
3515 Cochise. - The film Casino was filmed at this location. Ash Resnick (Caesars vise president with ties to the mob.)

[eventusstultorummagister]

2058 Ottawa dr. - Debbie Rynolds and Sonny Liston


WOW! So that's who lived in this one... MLS #1143541

BTW, who's Debbie "Rynolds"?