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True. However at the time I still really wouldn't have called St. Louis a northern city. It had a lot of outside influences though but I still think in 1860 it leaned southern overall, not by much though.
But wasn't St. Louis also known for its largely Republican German abolitionists??
wouldn't consider the bottom 1/3 of Missouri to be "Midwestern " at all.
I agree. Missouri is about 25 percent pure southern, and the other 25 percent, the northern half of Southern Missouri is a transition zone mix like southern Indiana and far southern IL and the other 50 percent is Midwestern.
From US 50 in Missouri down to about 20 miles north of highway 60 is transition zone. More south you go the more southern it gets and then when you get about 10-20 miles north of highway 60 then it transforms to totally southern. Most agree on the Missouri forum about this.
From the AR border to about 50 miles north into Missouri is southern. After that it's this transition zone of both elements.
However north of US 50 there is still southern influence in pockets such as around Lexington Missouri and Booneville for example you will find some influence but overall it's more Midwestern.
If you combine the areas in Missouri that are transition zone and areas that are truly southern, that gives you a state that's about 60 percent Midwestern and 40 percent southern total. Overall makes Missouri a more Midwestern state!
Springfield is literally right on the line of where the transition zone ends and the south begins. Overall Springfield leans more southern though immediately south of town it's southern zone for sure though. Springfield has outside influences because of the university.
Good map I made a couple years ago. However, might want to extend the yellow line a bit further north in central MO. Little Dixie areas still have some fairly strong influences in pockets still even though it leans Midwestern today.
Overall gives you a 50 percent Midwestern state, 25 percent transition zone like southern Indiana and IL and 25 percent fully southern. Some will argue in south central Missouri the southern line jets north a bit too but I didn't draw my map like that such as just south of Rolla many say the southerness really picks up.
Good map I made a couple years ago. However, might want to extend the yellow line a bit further north in central MO. Little Dixie areas still have some fairly strong influences in pockets still even though it leans Midwestern today.
Overall gives you a 50 percent Midwestern state, 25 percent transition zone like southern Indiana and IL and 25 percent fully southern. Some will argue in south central Missouri the southern line jets north a bit too but I didn't draw my map like that such as just south of Rolla many say the southerness really picks up.
Why do you say that St. Louis is Baltimore like? Because of the mixed support in the Civil War and also the former Southern heritage?
Also it seems like your Southern line matches the climate line. Where it goes from continental to subtropical. Well at least it goes South of it a bit since the subtropical divider in Missouri is the Missouri River where it seems everything south of it is humid subtropical and north of it is continental. St. Louis being there means that it has influences of both like Cincinnati. Was this deliberate?
Why do you say that St. Louis is Baltimore like? Because of the mixed support in the Civil War and also the former Southern heritage?
Also it seems like your Southern line matches the climate line. Where it goes from continental to subtropical. Well at least it goes South of it a bit since the subtropical divider in Missouri is the Missouri River where it seems everything south of it is humid subtropical and north of it is continental. St. Louis being there means that it has influences of both like Cincinnati. Was this deliberate?
Many say St.Louis feels like an east coast city and there are some similarities to Baltimore and Cinci as well. I'm talking mainly St. Louis city though.
St. Louis is right on the dividing line literally.
Funny how some call Cincinnati sub tropical when all year round it is cooler than St. Louis in the winter and the summer. Northern KY has a colder climate than St. Louis. I hate the term tropical overall though because when I think of sub tropical I think of Florida, southern Georgia, South Texas. Places like Tennessee don't have palm trees and tropical plants. Where I live in Southwest Florida is sub tropical bordering on tropical almost.
Northern KY also seems to get more severe winter storms the last few years compared to stl. This latest ice storm was a flop for St. Louis. Temps were slightly too warm again.
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St Louis is warmer because of elevation which is lowest in the Mississippi River valley. At one time the continent was trying to pull apart, that's why the area around New Madrid can have bad earthquakes. St Louis sits at 465', the hills above Cincinnati are 900'. St Louis gets more tornadoes historically as well.
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