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Might as well start a business if you're going to do that. I can make plenty more as a contractor or running a small business than accepting the peanuts employers are throwing around these days.
I find it interesting that a number of posters who frequently talk about how worthless and incompetent recruiters / recruitment firms are in the first place are now the same ones jumping all over the results of this survey put out by just such a firm. Funny how that works.
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Originally Posted by Merchant_ZZZ
The sad part is, generally the ones who are doing the hiring are the most incompetent of them all.
People always want to blame stupid, incompetent HR people for their inability to land a job. Oh well...a scapegoat is always good to have.
I find it interesting that a number of posters who frequently talk about how worthless and incompetent recruiters / recruitment firms are in the first place are now the same ones jumping all over the results of this survey put out by just such a firm. Funny how that works.
People always want to blame stupid, incompetent HR people for their inability to land a job. Oh well...a scapegoat is always good to have.
Depends on your location. Adecco is supposedly great, but in my old town they were terrible and even sent paperwork to another new hire with my name and information on it. They have been known for being unorganized and lazy in that town. I've also heard of some recruiters being told to keep an employee dangling and pretend they have leads for him when they don't, just to wait for a chance to place him and get a placement referral fee from the company rather than tell the employee to go elsewhere. But this isn't always the case.
Depends on your location. Adecco is supposedly great, but in my old town they were terrible and even sent paperwork to another new hire with my name and information on it. They have been known for being unorganized and lazy in that town. I've also heard of some recruiters being told to keep an employee dangling and pretend they have leads for him when they don't, just to wait for a chance to place him and get a placement referral fee from the company rather than tell the employee to go elsewhere. But this isn't always the case.
I agree. With recruiters, like with anyone else, some are greta, some are horrible, and many are somewhere in the middle.
My point was that there are some people in this forum who constantly and consistently bash recruiters as being worthless - and some of those same people are now jumping up and down to talk about the results of a survey put out by a recruitment firm.
I agree. With recruiters, like with anyone else, some are greta, some are horrible, and many are somewhere in the middle.
My point was that there are some people in this forum who constantly and consistently bash recruiters as being worthless - and some of those same people are now jumping up and down to talk about the results of a survey put out by a recruitment firm.
Many now think that some processes in the hiring process that Hr has added post-recession are actions that do not relate to the actual job. Rather it filters out prospects even if they are fits elsewise. Just read this thread.
Stop requiring your "Entry Level" jobs to have 5 years experience and you might get somewhere. Bring the wages back up for "In Demand" skills too and you will get people going to get trained. Hell, bring back some in house training instead of wishing on a star.
When I started trying to break into the job in the early '60s there were way too many young people (boomers) for the number of jobs (like now) so they were asking for years of experience for entry level jobs. They could afford to be choosey because there so many applicants (like now). It's all happened before.
When I started trying to break into the job in the early '60s there were way too many young people (boomers) for the number of jobs (like now) so they were asking for years of experience for entry level jobs. They could afford to be choosey because there so many applicants (like now). It's all happened before.
I think it is exactly this. Grads are not just fighting other grads for jobs, you are contending against those with years of experience who are chasing after the entry level work. I remember applying for an internship, where at the end of the interview I was told they had interviewed people with masters degrees for the same position. Master degree candidates all for a lowly paid internship, INTERNSHIP folks-yes it is that intense. Because they had lost their paid job or for whatever the master degreed candidates where applying to the internship because it was the only way to stay "relevant" in the industry.
Stop requiring your "Entry Level" jobs to have 5 years experience and you might get somewhere. Bring the wages back up for "In Demand" skills too and you will get people going to get trained. Hell, bring back some in house training instead of wishing on a star.
Seeker and dazed are right. There is an issue of a supply being greater than the demand. However I think there is a mis-match between what employers think the expectations in requirement and the skills needed are worth and what the skills and experience are actually worth. This is why we cannot find suitable candidates. The mass of candidates just compounds it.
I have seen ads where the requirements say that internship experience or volunteering doesn't count. They are only looking for paid work experience.
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