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What do illegal mexicans have to do with CIR? Isnt it all illegals? What does disposition have to do with anything?
Yes, and there is a legal process to follow to make this country your home whether one is a Mexican or not. One can't just come here without permission from our government. There is a reason that we have quotas for legal immigration also. It is to protect jobs and resources for Americans and to keep our population growth in check. Just because some Mexican or other foreigner wants to come here is not a good enough reason to allow them to or for them to decide they are coming here illegally when they don't make the cut. It is really that simple. No excuses! Immigration should be in the best interests of Americans not of foreigners.
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This CIR leaves open the defunding of the fence. This CIR will not pass anytime soon.
E-verify, changing birthright citizenship and denying any benefits to illegals needs to be in any CIR or it is nothing short of the status quo. A physical barrier is not only to stop illegals seeking jobs and benefits from coming here but keeping out the criminal element and would be terrorists also. It would assist the BP to do their jobs more effectively also.
Any CIR should only be about improving our current "legal" immigration policies not giving amnesty to illegal aliens or increasing our legal immigration quotas. If the above were implemented there would be no need to mass deport illegals they would leave on their own with no jobs, benefits or rewards for giving birth on our soil. This would also deter future illegal immigration.
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Those illegal aliens have family from where they came from also. Just because they may have children here doesn't garner them the ability to remain here.
What does being a Republican have to do with anything? I'll bet none of them are Republicans simply because they dont understand the actual politics of CIR.
I guess some in here think because illegals give birth on our soil that they shouldn't be deported? Since when are "parents" immune to our immigration laws? The whole family can go back to the parent's homeland. Therefore no separation of families.
When American parents break the law are they immune to the consequences for doing so? No, they go to jail or prison regardless that they have kids. What makes parents here illegally so special? How dare anyone demand that they get a pass on our laws and blackmail our politicians into caving into their ludicrous demands! Who the hell do they think they are?
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Those thinking that all those millions of illegal aliens (including those with "anchor babies") will all be deported are deluding themselves.
It ain't EVER gonna happen.
Those folks are here for good & aren't going anywhere.
That's just the way it is - and whether it's right or wrong isn't going to change that.
The GOP will either cave on the issue (which it's pretty much already starting to do) - or it will be buried under a demographic tidal wave.
Those thinking that all those millions of illegal aliens (including those with "anchor babies") will all be deported are deluding themselves.
It ain't EVER gonna happen.
Those folks are here for good & aren't going anywhere.
That's just the way it is - and whether it's right or wrong isn't going to change that.
The GOP will either cave on the issue (which it's pretty much already starting to do) - or it will be buried under a demographic tidal wave.
Ken
Your absolutely correct. It is either CIR or defacto-amnesty.
Nope, there is no need for mass deportations nor for any amnesty. All that needs to happen is for e-verify to mandated to end the job magnet, deny any benefits to illegal aliens and end birthright citizenship. Most would leave on their own and it would be a deterrent to future illegal immigration. Problem solved!
Nope, there is no need for mass deportations nor for any amnesty. All that needs to happen is for e-verify to mandated to end the job magnet, deny any benefits to illegal aliens and end birthright citizenship. Most would leave on their own and it would be a deterrent to future illegal immigration. Problem solved!
Of course that would require a super majority right wing control of Government, and you will never see that. Even a good number of Republicans would oppose it without some kind of legalization to go with it.
Of course that would require a super majority right wing control of Government, and you will never see that. Even a good number of Republicans would oppose it without some kind of legalization to go with it.
Why would lefties oppose e-verify? Are you admitting something now? Don't bet on many Republicans going along with an amnesty just to get e-verify passed. That won't stop illegal immigration by itself anyway.
Why would lefties oppose e-verify? Are you admitting something now? Don't bet on many Republicans going along with an amnesty just to get e-verify passed. That won't stop illegal immigration by itself anyway.
They would not necessary oppose E-Verify as long as it would be accompanied by a pathway to legal status for those here now. No disrespect, but you really live in a bubble if you can't figure out what's going on. How many Dems out there do you think would actually vote for an "enforcement only bill" and run the risk of alienating Hispanic and Asian voters at the polls? You think there are no Republicans taking money from lobbyists that want cheap labor that would oppose an enforcement only bill?
Those 23 along with most Dems in the House would be enough votes to pass a bill.
They would not necessary oppose E-Verify as long as it would be accompanied by a pathway to legal status for those here now. No disrespect, but you really live in a bubble if you can't figure out what's going on. How many Dems out there do you think would actually vote for an "enforcement only bill" and run the risk of alienating Hispanic and Asian voters at the polls? You think there are no Republicans taking money from lobbyists that want cheap labor that would oppose an enforcement only bill?
Those 23 along with most Dems in the House would be enough votes to pass a bill.
Why does e-verify have to be accompanied by a legal status for illegals here now? Sounds like blackmail to me. Oh, I know all about the Democrat agenda. Most want a path to citizenship for illegals because they would most likely vote Democrat after becoming citizens. Why would enforcing our immigration laws alienate Hispanics? Aren't they obligated to respect our immigration laws just like everyone else? I haven't heard about any Asian voters thumbing their noses at our immigration laws and making demands for their ethnic group here illegally. I suppose there are some but you never hear about them and probably because most don't expect that. What makes Hispanics think their ethnic group should get a pass on our immigration laws and rewarded with citizenship or legality for breaking them. Are they special?
There are members of both parties who have their corporate masters in the backs of their pockets not just the Republicans.
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