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Old 11-24-2011, 01:50 PM
 
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That's why the sentri pass is a complete sham. Once one of the cartels gets a driver with the fast pass they will never get checked.
Same with all the thousands of NAFTA trucks coming over the border every day -- a tiny handful is checked. Thats how TONS of drugs and other contraband make it over the border every day without any trouble.

It's much less efficient to use the drug mules which are illegals crossing over in the isolated areas. That is also done, but most of the drugs -- the very big shipments come over on the Mexican trucks and the Mexican buses.
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Old 11-24-2011, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Obviously over 30 million people have entered the USA and are staying here illegally, no legal process. And they are demanding everything be handed to them as their reward for doing so.

Open borders is exactly what we have now. Anyone can get into the USA easily by having organized criminals associated with the cartels obtain fake and stolen documents, cartel smugglers can get them over in many various ways, they can easily get documents that let them here legally but temporarily but then just stay on and work and do whatever they please because nothing is done with visa overstayers nor with those being smuggled in.
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That's right - that's exactly how the cartels easily bring over tons of drugs every day. Very few vehicles at the border are inspected and there are corrupt agents that pass the cartel smugglers through.

The borders are about as open as they could possibly be.
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That's why the sentri pass is a complete sham. Once one of the cartels gets a driver with the fast pass they will never get checked.
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Same with all the thousands of NAFTA trucks coming over the border every day -- a tiny handful is checked. Thats how TONS of drugs and other contraband make it over the border every day without any trouble.

It's much less efficient to use the drug mules which are illegals crossing over in the isolated areas. That is also done, but most of the drugs -- the very big shipments come over on the Mexican trucks and the Mexican buses.
And to think nobody told me that it was "Make A Story" day...
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Old 11-24-2011, 07:16 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I thought Border's was already closed?
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Old 11-24-2011, 07:25 PM
 
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but most of the drugs -- the very big shipments come over on the Mexican trucks and the Mexican buses.
Does the DEA know about this?
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Old 11-24-2011, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Does the DEA know about this?
Nah, "malamute" just makes stuff up - All of that traffic backed up at the border are because the people stop for 10 minutes on their own before crossing into the United States...
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Old 11-24-2011, 09:33 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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Nah, "malamute" just makes stuff up - All of that traffic backed up at the border are because the people stop for 10 minutes on their own before crossing into the United States...
Drugs Cross Border By Truck, Free Trade And Chance : NPR

That is funny, isn't it?

Malamute never said "no trucks" are inspected. If ALL trucks and cars are searched thoroughly, how do you explain all the drugs that keep getting to this side of the border? People crossing while hiding in trunks?

Do they just appear out of nowhere? There are tunnels and mules but what about what people cannot on themselves?

"Most drugs cross US borders in trucks"



cocaine highways: post-nafta, most drugs cross US borders in trucks - YouTube


" Only about 5 percent of trucks coming into the country from Mexico are inspected, according to U.S. officials."


"Any attempt to inspect all trucks crossing the border, "would have a hugely negative impact in terms of commercial traffic and trade between the United States and Mexico," said Zarate, who also held the position of Deputy National Security Advisor for Combating Terrorism."

"You would see lines like you wouldn't believe," he said


Cocaine Highways: Post-NAFTA, Most Drugs Cross U.S. Borders in Trucks - ABC News



So, are US Officials making stuff up too?

Just because it doesn't fit a pro-illegal's agenda, it doesn't mean it is not true.

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Old 11-24-2011, 09:41 PM
 
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When you hear the term "open borders" what exactly does that mean?

What are the misconceptions that people have with this term?

Does it really mean that anyone can just enter the U.S without going through any legal process for entering?
That's pretty much what open borders mean. Illegal Aliens ignore any and all laws we have now.

Open borders would mean Spanish being the new official language, free welfare and section 8 for Illegal invaders who in turn would bring Mexico's culture of corruption, crime and poverty with them.

There would soon be NO difference between L.A. or TJ, Juarez or Dallas.
In short it will mean the Balkanization of the US and a new 3rd world standard of living.

Which is why we have immigration laws to begin with. So we can accept those that can adjust and support themselves, keep out losers, criminals and illiterate peasants that offer nothing to the Country and secure the US from those that would harm us or burden our taxpayers.
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Old 11-25-2011, 10:42 AM
 
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Drugs Cross Border By Truck, Free Trade And Chance : NPR

That is funny, isn't it?

Malamute never said "no trucks" are inspected. If ALL trucks and cars are searched thoroughly, how do you explain all the drugs that keep getting to this side of the border? People crossing while hiding in trunks?

Do they just appear out of nowhere? There are tunnels and mules but what about what people cannot on themselves?

"Most drugs cross US borders in trucks"




cocaine highways: post-nafta, most drugs cross US borders in trucks - YouTube


" Only about 5 percent of trucks coming into the country from Mexico are inspected, according to U.S. officials."


"Any attempt to inspect all trucks crossing the border, "would have a hugely negative impact in terms of commercial traffic and trade between the United States and Mexico," said Zarate, who also held the position of Deputy National Security Advisor for Combating Terrorism."

"You would see lines like you wouldn't believe," he said


Cocaine Highways: Post-NAFTA, Most Drugs Cross U.S. Borders in Trucks - ABC News



So, are US Officials making stuff up too?

Just because it doesn't fit a pro-illegal's agenda, it doesn't mean it is not true.
Exactly.

Our government knows full well that most of the drugs come from Mexico, and tons of drugs come over daily. The cartels are certainly not fighting over a closed or well-controlled border.

I live right near the Juarez Corridor which is the big area of the border that is causing the most blood-shed in Mexico. Whatever cartel controls this area will profit very very nicely. Once drugs make it Juarez, they will very easily pass over the border, that's a well known fact, that's why the cartels are battling for the control of it.

El Paso and Juarez drug plaza « Fairly Civil

Link has the maps and all kinds of information.

It's very difficult for me to believe IBMuseum has ever visited Las Cruces much less lives there as he claims since he doesn't have a clue about the drugs coming over the border or the problems of Juarez.

Once over the border, the trucks head West or East on I-10, or North on I-25. Drug can be shipped from a Juarez warehouse to just about every city and town in the USA within hours.

Yes fewer than 5% of the trucks -- and there are many thousands crossing every day, are checked for what they're bringing over.
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Old 11-25-2011, 10:48 AM
 
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Does the DEA know about this?
Yes they do.

It's no secret at all that tons of drugs come over daily from Mexico. Tons.

It's also no secret at all that most of them come over on the trucks and buses. Yes there are tunnels and some drugs are carried over in backpacks and on humans. A lot come over in the trunks of vehicles, the back of pick-up trucks.

It's simply a fact that Mexico supplies the addicts of the USA with most of their drugs. Drugs are one of the biggest, if not the biggest business of Mexico.

Open borders work for the cartels in many ways besides drugs. They can also bring in weapons and ammunition easily into Mexico, they could get shipments from China too obviously -- but many claim a good portion of the weapons comes from the USA.

And the vehicle theft -- many thousands of cars and trucks are stolen from the USA and are taken down to Mexico. The cartels run the chop shops and the stolen vehicle business which is very very big. Many of the killings involved people at the Juarez chop shops, at least one of the big massacres involving teens was over stolen vehicles.
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Old 11-25-2011, 10:54 AM
 
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Also the human smuggling, recently pits of around 80 or so "migrants" mostly from Central America have been found near the border.

These people for the most part come over in semi-trailers of trucks and train box-cars. It's not very difficult for the cartes to get a shipment of 80 humans over, it goes on all the times. Even in Mexico they find crowded busses and train cars filled with Central Americans en route to the USA. They wouldn't be coming in those large numbers if it was difficult to get over the USA border.
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