Publix on County Line/Shopping Center & Other Commercial Development (Madison: apartments, house)

[Charles]

Originally Posted by E Limestone Dude

Yep, I'm serious. All those homes have empty commercial lots in front of the neighborhoods. Strip malls and junky stores take no time to pop up in front of the neighborhoods. First sign is there is a new apartment complex they are building...

Isn't there some sort of zoning planning on the types of businesses - that which would prevent that road from looking like Memorial Parkway or University? Something that would avoid a brake shop next to a preschool next to a restaurant next to a liquor store next to a church next to a law office next to construction rental yard.....

[Elizabeth_G]

I'm "assuming" that Madison does have something like that in place, but wouldn't swear to it. I'll check on that! I feel quite confident they do.

[autobahn]

P&Z Meeting is on Thursday. Maps are available through this link:
http://www.madisonal.gov/archives/45...9%20agenda.pdf

[autobahn]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth_G

I'm "assuming" that Madison does have something like that in place, but wouldn't swear to it. I'll check on that! I feel quite confident they do.

If it is, it is in the Zoning Code:
http://www.madisonal.gov/DocumentView.aspx?DID=182

[autobahn]

If you want to fight zoning, you have to make the P&Z acknowledge the published future land use map:
http://www.madisonal.gov/DocumentView.aspx?DID=233 (broken link)

[Charles]

The map in post 24 above seems general. The document in post 23 seems lower resolution, for example 4-8B-2 Permitted Uses includes

A. Accessory buildings, structures, and uses incidental to one or more permitted principal uses.
B. Medical. The following medical-related uses are permitted:
• Ambulatory health care facilities, including dental care.
• Assisted living.
• Convalescent, nursing, and personal care homes
• Emergency health care clinics.
• General and private hospitals.
• Health clubs or gyms, spas and wellness centers.
• Medical, dental, psychological, psychiatric, optical and other medical clinics.
• Medical research, experimental and testing laboratories.
• Medical supply companies selling or renting durable medical equipment
• Rehabilitation. services.
• Retailers of artificial limbs, braces, and related medical devices.
• Surgery centers.
• Pharmacies, drug stories and apothecaries.
C. Retail and Services:
• Apparel stores.
• Appliance and electronic stores
• Bakeries—where the products made are sold exclusively at retail on the premises.
• Barber shops, beauty parlors, reducing salons.
• Book stores and newsstands.
• Commercial recreation facilities, indoor only.
• Commercial subdivisions, which are platted pursuant to the City's adopted subdivision regulations and contain lots which are sold fee-simple. Commercial subdivisions shall provide the City with copies of covenants which provide for
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overall management or association of property owners and make provision for the maintenance of common areas.
• Computer supply stores.
• Confectionery stores.
• Dry cleaning establishments, limited to pickup and delivery only (No on-premises dry cleaning).
• Financial institutions excluding: pawn; title loan; deferred deposit (also known as payday loan); check cashing; and other businesses that operate in a similar manner, whether or not they are connected with a bank chartered by state or federal government.
• Florist shops.
• Funeral homes.
• Gas stations.
• Gift shops.
• Grocery stores, including the sale of beer, wine alcohol for off-premise consumption, but provided no gasoline is offered for sale.
• Hardware stores and variety stores.
• Hobby shops.
• Home furnishings stores.
• Hotels and motels.
• Jewelry stores.
• Laundry, excluding self-service
• Restaurants serving beer, wine and alcoholic beverages, subject to the regulations in the City’s Alcoholic Beverage Ordinance.
• Movie or motion picture theaters, except drive-in.
• Music, record, and video sales and rental stores.
• Photo finishing shops and photography studios.
• Print shops and copying services
• Restaurants, delicatessens, and cafes, including establishments selling beer, wine and alcohol for on-premise consumption.
• Shoe stores, shoe repair shops, and tailor shops.
• Sporting goods stores.
• Travel agencies.
• Warehouse retail stores, including outside garden supply.
• Enclosed retail trade establishments substantially similar in character and impact as determined by the Administrator.


But 4-8-1 Permitted Uses are
• Any use allowed as a Permitted Use in the B-2 District
• New and used car salesroom, showroom, or offices including leasing
• Mobile home sales lot
• Recreational vehicle sales lot
• Motels and hotels
• Beverage stores
• Open air businesses including retail sales of plant materials, lawn furniture, playground equipment and garden supplies
• Bowling alleys and similar forms of indoor commercial recreation
• Drive-in restaurants
• Business college or business schools
• Self-Service Storage facilities as a minor accessory use to the principal uses permitted herein
• Assisted Living Facilities


So it looks like some types of businesses are seperated.

The concern might come down to whether it is City of Madison or not. If it is not City of M, then these rules might not apply.

[autobahn]

Originally Posted by autobahn

If it is, it is in the Zoning Code:
http://www.madisonal.gov/DocumentView.aspx?DID=182

Also, here is the Comprehensive Plan for the City of Madison:
http://www.madisonal.gov/DocumentView.aspx?DID=166

[autobahn]

Code Of Alabama

P&Z shall review all projects for consistency with the comprehensive plan and all zoning regulations shall also be in accordance with the plan....


Section 11-52-11:

Proposed construction of streets, public buildings, utilities, etc., to be submitted for approval of commission after adoption of master plan; overruling of commission.

Whenever the commission shall have adopted the master plan of the municipality or of one or more major sections or districts thereof, no street, square, park or other public way, ground or open space or public building or structure or public utility, whether publicly or privately owned, shall be constructed or authorized in the municipality or in such planned section and district until the location, character and extent thereof shall have been submitted to and approved by the commission; provided, that in case of disapproval the commission shall communicate its reasons to the council, which shall have the power to overrule such disapproval by a recorded vote of not less than two thirds of its entire membership; provided further, that if the public way, ground, space, building, structure or utility is one the authorization or financing of which does not, under the law or charter provisions governing same, fall within the province of the municipal council, then the submission by the planning commission shall be to the board, commission or body having such jurisdiction and the planning commission's disapproval may be overruled by said board, commission or body by a vote of not less than two thirds of its membership.

The failure of the commission to act within 60 days from and after the date or official submission to the commission shall be deemed approval.


Section 11-52-72:

Purposes of zoning regulations generally; considerations in establishment thereof generally.

Such regulations shall be made in accordance with a comprehensive plan and designed to lessen congestion in the streets, to secure safety from fire, panic and other dangers, to promote health and the general welfare, to provide adequate light and air, to prevent the overcrowding of land, to avoid undue concentration of population and to facilitate the adequate provision of transportation, water, sewerage, schools, parks and other public requirements.

Such regulations shall be made with reasonable consideration, among other things, to the character of the district and its peculiar suitability for particular uses and with a view to conserving the value of buildings and encouraging the most appropriate use of land throughout such municipality.

[ionlife]

I say we just put in a strip joint, a CVS to supply the patrons and dancers with their meds and the heck with it... I just love all the crazy legalese... at the end of the day... it is what it is... Ah, I remember Fairfax County well. I guess I'll have a taste of it soon enough

[ionlife]

Originally Posted by autobahn

If you want to fight zoning, you have to make the P&Z acknowledge the published future land use map:
http://www.madisonal.gov/DocumentView.aspx?DID=233 (broken link)

That map is so big--where is the breakdown of the different colors for the grids/land use?

Autobahn: thanks for posting all the links.