06-15-2022, 09:21 AM
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They used to talk about the Zierdt Rd interchange, but it was (partially) built a mile or so to the west. Having an entrance to 565 eastbound would be fairly easy and relatively inexpensive, but an exit heading west would cost a bit.
Wasn't there talk of building a new Zierdt Rd connector to Redstone Gateway?
I think it was mentioned along with the Redstone Gateway Greenway project.
06-15-2022, 11:30 AM
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Wasn't there talk of building a new Zierdt Rd connector to Redstone Gateway?
you may be thinking of this
Resolute Way as a connector from Madison Boulevard to Redstone Arsenal. Resolute Way is currently a short dead end road in the Redstone Gateway but would connect near Governors West and a new interchange on I-565.
There are lots of fairly current photos (especially the last 40) of the Gateway in this link. Picture number 63 among others shows Resolute, the short stretch of road between two newly built buildings.
https://jwacompanies.com/property/redstone-gateway/
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06-15-2022, 01:57 PM
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you may be thinking of this
Resolute Way as a connector from Madison Boulevard to Redstone Arsenal. Resolute Way is currently a short dead end road in the Redstone Gateway but would connect near Governors West and a new interchange on I-565.
There are lots of fairly current photos (especially the last 40) of the Gateway in this link. Picture number 63 among others shows Resolute, the short stretch of road between two newly built buildings.
https://jwacompanies.com/property/redstone-gateway/
Gotcha.
Then, I really have no idea why they are clearcutting the trees on the Arsenal South of 565 and East of Zierdt Rd as was previously mentioned.
06-15-2022, 02:11 PM
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Gotcha.
An entrance ramp to 565 would be great there as everyone knows.
06-15-2022, 03:13 PM
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An entrance ramp to 565 would be great there as everyone knows.
It sure would be, and fairly inexpensive to do one would think. Perhaps that would put ramps too close together to maintain standards. I have no idea what that restriction is, if there is one.
06-16-2022, 08:10 AM
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An entrance ramp to 565 would be great there as everyone knows.
Redstone Arsenal is not giving up any more land for an entrance ramp for travelers on Zierdt Rd. when there is already an entrance ramp a mile west coming from Town Madison Blvd. Over ten years ago, the Base Commander (at that time) agreed to give up Arsenal land for the widening of Zierdt Rd. The justification was so that more incoming traffic to the Arsenal would then choose to use Gate 7, instead of Gate 9, if Zierdt was a four-lane road that wouldn't back up with traffic. The whole idea was to reduce the pressure on Gate 9 with all of the south bound traffic coming from AL 255, as well as west bound on I-565. The fact that the widening of Zierdt, with an attractive grass median, was of benefit to the thousands who live along that corridor, as well as the stimulus to Town Madison, was an added benefit, not necessarily intended as it is not part of the mission of Redstone Arsenal.
If you'll notice, the tree cutting extends beyond what would be needed for an on ramp. I would imagine that they will sell the timber for revenue in the same way that in the past, hundreds of acres of Arsenal land have been rented out for growing cotton and grazing cattle.
Presently, the Arsenal is continuing to look at reducing the volume of cars coming down AL 255(Research Park Blvd.) and they are looking at the possibility of extending Resolute Way (located in the Redstone Gateway development) across I-565 to Governors West/Madison Blvd.
An interesting note from Wikipedia, the original intersection of Rideout Rd (now known as Research Pk. Blvd.) with AL 20 (now I-565) was designed to get traffic into and out of the Arsenal, therefore, the only flyover ramp at that intersection is from present day I-565 westbound to southbound on Rideout Rd. towards Gate 9.
That intersection was already there when the State of Alabama decided to extend Rideout Rd. from the Arsenal north to US 72 in 1969. Because of that history, that interchange doesn't have what is needed most which is a flyover from I-565 eastbound to AL255 North. The Arsenal actually owned all of the land up to the railroad tracks just south of Old Madison Pike and ceded it to the State to build the roads. The Wikipedia article on the history of AL 20 states that the 1936 alignment of AL 20 was Old Madison Pike from downtown Madison to Governors Dr., so it wasn't until 1957 when AL 20 was realigned and the present day Madison Blvd. (formerly AL20) was built was there a northern entrance to Redstone Arsenal. At that time the flyover ramp was built going south bound into the Arsenal.
06-16-2022, 08:44 AM
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After the Redstone Gateway Greenway project, it would be nice if they extended the Indian Creek Greenway up through Monrovia to the old Kelley Spring Watercress Pond or Phillips Park.
06-16-2022, 10:39 AM
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After the Redstone Gateway Greenway project, it would be nice if they extended the Indian Creek Greenway up through Monrovia to the old Kelley Spring Watercress Pond or Phillips Park.
FYI, only problem is it seems to take a long time to get these things done
https://cityblog.huntsvilleal.gov/hu...itto%20Landing .
06-16-2022, 12:54 PM
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As someone who loves the greenways and the potential of the complete network, this is frustrating to me. Not doubting or downplaying at all the time and money it takes to build these, but since I moved here in 2019, they've said 44 miles by 2023. Its now 2022, and they've opened ~6 (Zierdt Rd Greenway - 3, Elgie's Walk Greenway -3). I'm linking the most recent alternative modes review below which details all the various projects in work for 21 & 22, but it doesn't seem like any of these projects have been completed. Still a very cool document to take a look at!
https://cityblog.huntsvilleal.gov/bu...ode-at-a-time/
06-16-2022, 01:59 PM
Location: Madison, Alabama
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I saw that the other day too. I can’t say for sure, but I’d almost bet they’re selling it for timber. I can’t imagine why they’d build something there considering there’s no roads or infrastructure to support any buildings way off in that corner. The only other thing I could think of otherwise would be if they’re clearing and grading in order to cede it to the city for something.
If you look now at the WAFF cameras, it looks like they're doing more than just cutting timber. There's earth-moving equipment shoving dirt around and clouds of red dust billowing. Looks like they're flattening that area for some reason. Not sure what it could be since it's basically inaccessible.
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Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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